Personally if anyone pulls the whole crowd crashing thing on me I will knock them out on the spot. Some people say it's a part of moshing. I think moshing is a release and was never meant to be an avenue to intentionally harm someone. Taking hits in the pit has always been accidental and fine, but this running up and hitting people ... to me that's an invitation to a fight.

What is it exactly? You mean like crashing into people who aren't in the pit, or like a circle pit or wall of death or something?

Crowd crashing is when people run around the outer edges of the mosh pit and hit people who are on the sidelines. It's kind of developed from 'hardcore dancing' but instead of confining themselves to the pit they look for people on the outer edges to 'crash'.

Those people are cunts, but you've gotta expect to bet bumped into a bit if you're at the edge of the pit.

Super lame. Hate those people - they tend to give you a look too like you're not getting the full experience of the music by not 'participating'. I don't tend to encounter them too much these days though, which is a nice change.

If this is the thing I know as "Crowd Killing", then it can just fuck off.

I think it might be, after watching this video the other night.


Those people are prize cunts. Some weedy little fucker tried it many years ago when I went to see The Ataris (yes, we're a bit hard up for good gigs here... ). My little punk mate and I pissed ourselves laughing at him because he was so pathetic, and then squashed the scrawny little shit in the pit. I suppose a 6 foot, 100kg+ guy wearing a Morbid Angel t-shirt would have been absolutely terrifying for kids wearing Good Charlotte and Avril Lavigne t-shirts. There was no more attempted "hardcore" dancing after that.

I have been to shows and have been pushed and shoved but have never been hurt, this must be a new thing.

I'm not attempting to portray myself as a hard-arse, but if any cunt started that shit on me I'd fucking clatter them.

I attempted to join in with a moshpit at a gig late last year. I ended up on my arse and the stark reality of my age came crashing down with me. Never again.

Yeah, took me 3 fucking days to recover from the last mosh pit I was in. Great fun at 18, fucking agony at 45!

My girlfriend was also annoyed because I got dirt on my jeans and she'd only just washed and ironed them for me. Game over.

It's fucking offensive. If I want to stand quietly & enjoy the show in my own space I should be allowed to.

Ironed your jeans? Oh dear...