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Author:  blacklorre [ Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:12 pm ]
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OK I have listened to all at least once except for the newbie. I'm going for Cruelty here cos my favourite COF song is on it (Cruelty Bought Thee Orchids). (Whole album not on YT so I watch the clips) : (I already like) Last one I owned was Thorn.


Author:  blacklorre [ Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:43 pm ]
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Author:  Vim Fuego [ Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:06 am ]
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I went Cruelty... Lustmord and Wargasm is a metallic masterpiece. Midian and beyond just comes across as same shit, different album. Mostly solid, but I'm beyond caring.

Author:  Chinese Whispers [ Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:57 am ]
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It's a toss up between 'Dusk...' and 'Cruelty...'. Probably the former as I'm far more familiar with it. The last two have been solid, and whilst they are a great return-to-form, they are nowhere near as seminal (or 'controversial') as their earlier works.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:00 pm ]
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Tough call. I used to think Cruelty was their best. It was their tightest musically up until that point and has some of their best and most well written songs, but the production does suck a bit of the life out of it.

Dusk, on the other hand, has an incredible atmosphere, so I'm giving it the slight edge, even though it's sloppier musically, but there isn't much between them.

Midian was a very good album, but it seemed like the work of mortals to me in 2000. Less special than their previous work, more formulaic and calculated. It was the moment they began streamlining their sound for wider acclaim, but it was less blatantly commercial than their Roadrunner period.

As Chinese said, their last two albums are really quite good, and maybe one of them could arguably round out their top 5, but they aren't touching Vempire, Dusk or Cruelty. Principle has a special atmosphere to it and carries much nostalgic appeal, but it's sounding a little rough nowadays.

I basically like most COF albums to varying degrees. Their Peaceville era from 2010-2013 was pretty uneventful though, and I rarely return to those albums. I'd much rather listen to Thornography.

In the end, I think the revolving door lineup finally caught up with them. Dani got away with reshuffling the deck for a while, but it was unsustainable, and it definitely hurt them in the long run.

Edit: corrected spelling errors.

Author:  Termoid [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:22 pm ]
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Only Midian is real. The album perfectly encapsulates everything the band are about.

Author:  Vim Fuego [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:53 am ]
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Termoid wrote:
Only Midian is real. The album perfectly encapsulates everything the band are about.


Except the artwork wasn't pervy enough.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:01 am ]
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Termoid wrote:
Only Midian is real. The album perfectly encapsulates everything the band are about.


Only if you pretend that their 90's work never existed.

Midian was the turning point. It was a sign of where they would go, not necessarily where they came from.

Author:  Termoid [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:36 am ]
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Vim Fuego wrote:
Termoid wrote:
Only Midian is real. The album perfectly encapsulates everything the band are about.


Except the artwork wasn't pervy enough.


Image

Author:  Termoid [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:37 am ]
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Stat_Rad wrote:
Termoid wrote:
Only Midian is real. The album perfectly encapsulates everything the band are about.


Only if you pretend that their 90's work never existed.

Midian was the turning point. It was a sign of where they would go, not necessarily where they came from.


I think it's called progression.

Author:  Capt. Howdy [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:19 pm ]
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Termoid wrote:
Only Midian is real. The album perfectly encapsulates everything the band are about.


I agree in that Midian is their most definitive, Dusk is their strongest record though.

Author:  Termoid [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:12 pm ]
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Capt. Howdy wrote:
Termoid wrote:
Only Midian is real. The album perfectly encapsulates everything the band are about.


I agree in that Midian is their most definitive, Dusk is their strongest record though.


Dusk is my second favourite COF album. It's their Transilvanian Hunger.

Author:  markhebb [ Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:30 pm ]
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Dusk by a country mile....

Author:  Capt. Howdy [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:23 am ]
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Termoid wrote:
Capt. Howdy wrote:
Termoid wrote:
Only Midian is real. The album perfectly encapsulates everything the band are about.


I agree in that Midian is their most definitive, Dusk is their strongest record though.


Dusk is my second favourite COF album. It's their Transilvanian Hunger.


I don't see COF as a black metal act, I feel they have more in common with a Moonspell or a Tiamat than Bahory or Darkthrone.

Author:  Termoid [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:36 am ]
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Capt. Howdy wrote:
I don't see COF as a black metal act, I feel they have more in common with a Moonspell or a Tiamat than Bahory or Darkthrone.


COF veered away from the etched in stone black metal blueprint along with Dimmu, Enslaved and others. Some called it musical evolution whilst others called it selling out. Depends which side of the fence you sit really.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:04 pm ]
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How is Midian COF's definitive album exactly?

Author:  Capt. Howdy [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:48 pm ]
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Stat_Rad wrote:
How is Midian COF's definitive album exactly?


It's almost novelty, dark, horror, gothi style.

Author:  opaline [ Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:20 pm ]
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I went with "Dusk... and Her Embrace".

Author:  RTC [ Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:02 pm ]
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Midian for me personally

Author:  Green Man [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:39 pm ]
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For sentimental reasons and because it still holds up as the best one ever, I had to vote for Cruelty. But Damnation is my very close second.

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