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 90s alternative rock part 4 

Which one?
Alice In Chains - Black Gives Way To Blue 29%  29%  [ 4 ]
Soundgarden - Superunknown 50%  50%  [ 7 ]
Smashing Pumpkins - Adore 14%  14%  [ 2 ]
Stone Temple Pilots - No. 4 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Pearl Jam - No Code 7%  7%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 14

 90s alternative rock part 4 
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Post 90s alternative rock part 4
This poll is slightly skewed. Firstly, Nirvana drop out for obvious reasons. Secondly, BGWTB was made about 15 years after the rest of these albums, so perhaps it's a little bold to try and accurately compare it to a bunch of records made in a different time and place. Nevertheless, as AIC's fourth album, it qualifies.

It would also, under nearly any other circumstance, be the one I would give my vote to, as I still regard it as my favourite AIC album and one of the greatest comeback records ever. I haven't heard any STP albums, the bits of No Code that I heard just didn't interest me at all, and what I've heard of Adore sounds strange. But it's up against Superunknown, and this changes everything.

Superunknown came out in 1994, a year which I consider an all-time high point for rock music and which produced a whole slew of 5 fist albums. The fact that out of all the brilliant records released that year, I would nominate Superunknown as being the best of the lot says a very great deal. Put simply, it is a classic, but is so much more than that. It manages to pull off the very rare feat of being a lengthy but extremely consistent record, with next to no filler. It is by far Soundgarden's finest hour and still stands head and shoulders above anything else they have released.

I personally rate Superunknown as being on the same level as Physical Graffiti, Abbey Road, Wish You Were Here or Back In Black - it is THAT fucking good. An easy winner.


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Alice In Chains for me, no question. A fantastic comeback album, yes but a great AIC album in its own right. The only criticism I could level at it is that Duvall didn't get enough lead vocal time, and that Cantrell really could have stepped back a bit, but it doesn't have any adverse effect on the quality. Great album, a worthy addition to their discography and my second favourite of theirs, after Dirt - though it took a while to grow on me.

Then Adore and Superunknown (two albums that did nothing forme on release, but I've come around to in the intervening years, especially Adore). I'm not familiar with No Code, I've heard bits and pieces over the years but nothing has really stuck. Haven't heard/won't hear No. 4.

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Post Re: 90s alternative rock part 4
01. Soundgarden - "Superunknown"
02. Alice In Chains - "Black Gives Way To Blue"
03. Smashing Pumpkins - "Adore"
04. Pearl Jam - "No Code"
05. Stone Temple Pilots - "No. 4"


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'Adore' and 'Superunknown' fight for the top spot but 'Adore' steals it. A beautiful record, if somewhat overlong, best played at three in the morning gazing desolately out of the window onto some neon smear or while wandering on a moor dressed as an Emily Bronte character (which Billy & co. appear to be doing in one of the inner sleeve photos).

'Superunknown' is also too long but it has some great stuff on it, you can tell Cornell is trying to take them into the big leagues but the other three's quirkier songwriting drags them away again so even on the more straightforward songs the rhythm section suddenly does weird things, the melody skews in odd and dissonant directions, etc.


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Post Re: 90s alternative rock part 4
All great albums, but Superunknown for me, ever so slightly. No Code to follow, with AIC, STP and SP in a three way tie for third place.


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Post Re: 90s alternative rock part 4
I agree with Clint, Superunknown needs a trim but has some great tunes. "Fell On Black Days", "The Day I Tried To Live" and "04th July" are absolute crackers.


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I disagree with everyone, surprise surprise, Alternative Rock is shit and i'm so happy i found ecstacy and dance music in the 90's.

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FeedMeVibration wrote:
Superunknown used to end sourly for me with She Likes Surprises, but then I saw it was a bonus track and got rid. Lovely.


Ditto.


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turdy wrote:
I agree with Clint, Superunknown needs a trim but has some great tunes. "Fell On Black Days", "The Day I Tried To Live" and "04th July" are absolute crackers.


If this was released by a band from New Orleans or Birmingham it would be considered a doom classic. Alas, the Seattle/Grunge association means a song of this tempo and heaviness will never get the accolades it deserves from some of the more traditionally metal minded individuals, due to inherent bias.


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Post Re: 90s alternative rock part 4
Superunkown is the only one I've heard, quite liked it for a bit at the time, quickly went off it. Revisited it years later (which is still many years ago) and thought it was a bit lightweight.


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Solaris wrote:
Alice In Chains for me, no question. A fantastic comeback album, yes but a great AIC album in its own right. The only criticism I could level at it is that Duvall didn't get enough lead vocal time, and that Cantrell really could have stepped back a bit, but it doesn't have any adverse effect on the quality. Great album, a worthy addition to their discography and my second favourite of theirs, after Dirt - though it took a while to grow on me.


Wow. This. All this.


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No Code is the album where Pearl Jam lost the plot. They tried to be all 'arty' and 'moody' on that record and it was a complete snoozefest with no memorable songs.

Adore is a really good album. I especially enjoyed revisiting it last year for the podcast. It has aged well and my only major criticism of it is its length.

As for Superunknown, at first I didn't like it at all, just like Sol. It sounded watered down and tailored for mass consumption, but over time I began to appreciate its scope and variety.

No.4 is one of STP's best albums. It has some excellent stuff on it. I've probably listened to it more than any other album on this list, but at the same time I can't vote for it.

AIC's comeback record was a huge surprise. I don't think anybody expected it to be that good. I almost feel like voting for it but won't. It's a close race though.

I'm going to vote for Adore because I feel that it has a special atmosphere in its best moments. It's also the only album on this list that doesn't sound like a product of its time bar one or two songs. As Clint suggested, it's a mood record, and it didn't really click with me until one cold rainy night while I was listening to it on an empty train.

Out of all the albums on this list, Adore was the ballsiest attempt at a complete transformation. It sounds nothing like anything else that Pumpkins, or any of their contemporaries, released before or after. It's almost like a 4AD album with a huge budget. The only thing that dates it to the time period is the single and the gothic imagery, which was ultimately misleading because it doesn't sound like any of the music that was labelled 'goth' at the time, particularly not in the mainstream.

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Post Re: 90s alternative rock part 4
oneleggedpunk wrote:
I disagree with everyone, surprise surprise, Alternative Rock is shit


Dead fucking right! Hate all of these bands.

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and i'm so happy i found ecstacy and dance music in the 90's.


Um... What? :shock:

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