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Is Janick Gers useless in Maiden?
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Janick's dance moves have always split fans down the middle, as has his sloppy solo playing. A recent live clip of Maiden in Brazil highlights Gers' spastic dance moves, and begs the question of whether his guitar is even on when they are playing?!?!! He is flipping his guitar around constantly and there is no appreciable difference to their sound when he isn't playing.





So what do you think? What's his function in the band? Does he pull his weight? Or is he just there because he is a good bloke to go drinking with?

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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
Isn't it obvious that he has always been completely surplus to requirements since Smith came back?

It's hard to see how he hasn't added to their worsening problem of overlong songs and albums. Not saying they wouldn't still be doing that without him, but an extra guitarist means another solo, another riff, etc. which only makes it all worse.

Useless.


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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
No reason for him to still be in the band once Smith returned, regardless of what Harris has said about always wanting three guitarists (I sincerely doubt that). They just don't want to sack their mate, simple as that. And that's fair enough but personally I just find his onstage 'antics' irritating.

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He's written some great songs man, you bellends.

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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
He's only there for visual purposes. Hypothetically, if Maiden were to cease playing live shows and continue releasing albums, they would do well to get rid of him, as his only purpose for being in the band since Adrian's return has been to get the crowd excited by doing silly things on stage. He can't play when he's standing still let alone when he's spinning his guitar around his body by the strap, so why even bother strapping a guitar on him? As Stat said, you probably wouldn't hear a difference in the music if he unplugged it, aside from the fact that a superior guitarist would be taking over for his solos.

To my knowledge he really hasn't written anything decent, he doesn't play well and the band doesn't take advantage of three guitars in the way that they should. I don't think he's useless, because the fact remains that he's an energetic stage presence, but it can definitely be argued that he's useless outside of that.

- Edit: In response to Yail, which 'great songs'? That's not to say you're wrong, I just don't know of any.

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The Mercenary
Dream of Mirrors
Dance of Death
The Pilgrim
The Legacy
Out of the Silent Planet
Montségur
The talisman

Off the top of my head.

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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
He also co-wrote Man On The Edge, Weekend Warrior, and Como Estais Amigos.

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He also co-wrote Man On The Edge, Weekend Warrior, and Como Estais Amigos.

So did Steve Harris, should they get rid of him as well?

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Harris co-wrote most of the songs you listed above too mate! :D

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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
he was fine when Adrian wasn't there, but he does seem to just be there for some theatrics these days. Suppose he's not doing any harm.


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Harris co-wrote most of the songs you listed above too mate! :D

I know :mrgreen:

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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
He makes up for Dave Murray standing there wobbling round like an erect penis in an earthquake.

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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
Vim Fuego wrote:
He makes up for Dave Murray standing there wobbling round like an erect penis in an earthquake.

Speaking from experience?

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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
Dr Yail Bloor wrote:
Vim Fuego wrote:
He makes up for Dave Murray standing there wobbling round like an erect penis in an earthquake.

Speaking from experience?

Sort of, although my penis doesn't have a receding mullet... :?

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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
Dr Yail Bloor wrote:
He's written some great songs man, you bellends.

One or two, yes.

But how much has his presence got int the way of what Maiden could have been since 1999 and should be? i.e. a trimmer, leaner outfit who aren't committed to recording every single thing they think of. It's an unanswerable question of course, but I think it's safe to say 3 lead guitarists doesn't help them.


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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
I'm going to say that he is useless on the grounds that for the first 20 or so years everything they wrote they wrote for 2 guitarists. And when they began to write songs for 3 guitarists nothing stood out as obviously needing 3 guitarists and could most probably be performed live with just the two.

Nothing against the guy, and I quite like him. But I'm just not sure he's necessary.

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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
He's a good fit for them. As has been posted, he has contributed to the songwriting. Could they get on without him? Sure they could, but he's harmless, and is actually a benefit to their overall process. Good on them for sticking with him.


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Post Re: Janick Gers - Useless or not?
I think he's fun to watch,i've enjoyed some of his solos(at least on record) and he has contributed to some of my favorite maiden songs.The problem is adrian outshines him in every way and since his return nothing they've done has really capitalized on the presence of three guitarists.Like,if i was new to maiden and you played any of their post 2000 stuff for me i can't think of anything that would jump out at me and make me say "Hey,wow is that three guitarists playing?"What i'm trying to say is i don't think they've really done anything inventive on a technical level with the three guitar setup,or really all that flashy either.

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Almost 50% saying he's not useless! Good grief.


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vandlass wrote:
The problem is adrian outshines him in every way and since his return nothing they've done has really capitalized on the presence of three guitarists. Like,if i was new to maiden and you played any of their post 2000 stuff for me i can't think of anything that would jump out at me and make me say "Hey,wow is that three guitarists playing?" What i'm trying to say is i don't think they've really done anything inventive on a technical level with the three guitar setup,or really all that flashy either.


^ Basically, this.


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