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Or have destroyed their taste buds with white cider.


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Bangers and Mash is a lovely dish if done right with onion gravy.


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Potatoes.

Acceptable (but not 'cos I'm Irish you fucking RACIST!), I was afraid it'd be peas like they have in Australia.


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The Golden Fang wrote:
Or have destroyed their taste buds with white cider.


You have probably drunk white cider more than me.

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oneleggedpunk wrote:
Potatoes.

Acceptable (but not 'cos I'm Irish you fucking RACIST!), I was afraid it'd be peas like they have in Australia.


Mashed Peas that sounds as bad as Mushy Peas.

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They call it a pie floater, I think. Appetising.


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A floater, that is just a wrong un.

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Solaris wrote:
They call it a pie floater, I think. Appetising.

That is a Norfolk delicacy as well, in Norwich market there is a mushy peas stall (it's more like pea soup), and the best way to eat it is to have a pie in your bowl then the peas over the top. Eat with mint sauce spooned over it. Honestly delicious.

Also, question for Painkiller - can you brush your teeth during daylight hours in Ramadan? I was wondering this because two of my pupils are observing Ramadan at the moment and they have terrible bad breath because they're not drinking anything and it's so warm. I guess chewing gum is definitely not OK but was wondering about tooth-brushing. I presume not.

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Ed Blackadder wrote:
Also, question for Painkiller - can you brush your teeth during daylight hours in Ramadan?


Good question, but one which has honestly never come up for me. It's the kind of thing that Islamic scholars would disagree over, so I'm not sure if there's a fixed answer or not. Medication's usually permitted, so you could make an argument that it's a health issue, Can't be any more use than that, sorry.


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At what age are children generally supposed to fully observe the fasting element of Ramadan?


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Again, no hard-and-fast rule, but when they're old enough to do it safely. In many Muslim families younger children will do a partial-fast, following it as much as they can but having a little bit of water or food to keep them going.

One of the key features of the pillar of Sawm (fasting) is that it's meant to be a choice for people who are medically capable of doing it. It's not supposed to be forced, or to be followed by anyone who's health isn't upto it -though of course people don't always live up to the values they choose to follow, and I'm sure some Muslims do feel pressure to fast.


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My friend used to an Islamic Fundamentalist (was in contact with Abu Hamza among others) but still cheated on Ramadan.


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The mainstream religious response to that is that there isn't any mundane punishment for "cheating" - Allah will know, and will judge you accordingly. Obviously there are areas where it would be unwise for a Muslim to be seen eating during the day on Ramadan, but it's meant to just be between you and God.


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One of my friends found a Muslim pupil hiding in the classroom stationery cupboard eating a Mars bar, can God see into stationery cupboards?


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Unless they're lined with porn - he can't see through that.


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The Golden Fang wrote:
One of my friends found a Muslim pupil hiding in the classroom stationery cupboard eating a Mars bar, can God see into stationery cupboards?

My old RS teacher told almost exactly the same story, she said she found it so funny that he'd apparently seemed to think Allah couldn't see him in there.

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Again, no hard-and-fast rule, but when they're old enough to do it safely. In many Muslim families younger children will do a partial-fast, following it as much as they can but having a little bit of water or food to keep them going.

One of the key features of the pillar of Sawm (fasting) is that it's meant to be a choice for people who are medically capable of doing it. It's not supposed to be forced, or to be followed by anyone who's health isn't upto it -though of course people don't always live up to the values they choose to follow, and I'm sure some Muslims do feel pressure to fast.

I think this is one of the most philosophically interesting things about Islam - the emphasis on niyyah (which I've probably misspelled), i.e., intention. It doesn't matter if you can't or even don't physically do things as long as you're thinking the right things - and it doesn't matter if you do good things if you have the wrong thoughts. It's unsurprising I suppose that there's a concept like that in such a ritualistic religion, but I think it's a good concept nonetheless.
It emphasises faith and belief - that is, thinking about God - above all, which is something that is sometimes lost in, for example, Hinduism, or presumably Roman Catholicism.

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My friend used to an Islamic Fundamentalist (was in contact with Abu Hamza among others) but still cheated on Ramadan.

It's why so many Muslim birds in France and elsewhere take it up the arse. They're used to it from boyfriends and husbands who "abstain" during Ramadan. There's no religion quite like Islam for learning abject hypocrisy.

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Crom should convert. He'd have a whale of a time.


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The Golden Fang wrote:
My friend used to an Islamic Fundamentalist (was in contact with Abu Hamza among others) but still cheated on Ramadan.

It's why so many Muslim birds in France and elsewhere take it up the arse. They're used to it from boyfriends and husbands who "abstain" during Ramadan. There's no religion quite like Islam for learning abject hypocrisy.


Catholicism?


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Not even in the same league.

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