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Author:  andrew [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:39 pm ]
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yeah dodgy eyes why did we even bother to give him a trial eh ?

Author:  Solaris [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:39 pm ]
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As pointed out on Have I Got News For You? recently:


Author:  Cromwell [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:54 pm ]
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He's nasty actually. Yahoo version has more details than BBC.

Quote:
Watkins plotted the abuse of a one-year-old child in messages with the mother, including one in which he said he wanted a "summer of filthy child porn" and to take things "to the next level".

He then recorded camcorder footage of himself performing a sex act on the child during a drug-fuelled binge, after arranging to meet the child's mother in a London hotel room.


Quote:
Watkins then persuaded another female fan over the Skype network to abuse her own child. The split screen footage shows him referring to the woman and her baby as his "slave duo".

They also discuss making the child have sex with animals and take drugs as it grows up.
Police raided Watkins's house and found films of him performing sex acts with under-age girl fans.


They're editing it as they go along too, it also said his password for one of his laptops was a term for child abuse sex act, and that his idea was to get the kids hooked on meth to get them to do things.

That's really psychopathic. Nasty cunt.

Author:  Iron Steev [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:04 pm ]
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Not much bothers me that goes on, but this stuff genuinely upsets me.

Author:  Dr Yail Bloor [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:07 pm ]
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Lets just hope someone kills him in prison, he doesnt deserve the option of suicide.

Author:  bás [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:07 pm ]
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It really upsets me too because he had such a bright future as the greatest singer since Mike Patton.

Author:  Cromwell [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:14 pm ]
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bás wrote:
It really upsets me too because he had such a bright future as the greatest singer since Mike Patton.


You are taking the piss, aren't you?!?

Dick head in a shit band was my opinion before, now he's a total cunt.

I saw on fb Was commented the guy would end up in a hospital instead of a prison, but I can't see that happening; there's no indication of any mental health grounds, he's just psychopathic (I think anti-social personality disorder is the current term) and a sexual pervert, but it doesn't sound like psychotic fantasies or anything which is what people like Sutcliff have.

Author:  Dr Yail Bloor [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:17 pm ]
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He claims he was high on meth and didnt know what he was doing, i would iamgine part of the deal with him pleading guilty would be to end up in hospital rather than straight prison.

Author:  Cromwell [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:21 pm ]
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He uploaded the footage to a cloud site later, which is what ballsed up his claim of not remembering it I think. Plus it's multiple charges, not just the one, which was what he was originally denying I think. Once they went through his computers, etc, he was fucked.

I think he may have pleaded guilty as there was too much evidence against him. From what's in the press at moment, there's not much grounds that I can see to get into hospital. He'll be in real shit if he ends up in normal prison though, celebrity pretty boy paedo will be a prime target!

Author:  Ed Blackadder [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:24 pm ]
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A lot of the details reported just seem sort of cartoonishly evil. I mean you can't believe anyone would really do things like (allegedly) have 'Ifuckkids' as their laptop password. The most upsetting one I read (on the BBC) was that one of the other women involved - two women have been found guilty in the same case - sent him a text about one of the victims saying "she needs to understand her mummy doesn't love her." Besides the crimes themselves the sheer level of nastiness involved just defies belief.

Author:  Faggotpassword [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:27 pm ]
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He'll be on a special wing, to be sure. No way he'd last ten seconds in general population.

And as for the "Mothers" involved, pimping out your own kids? WTF?

Author:  bás [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:30 pm ]
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Cromwell wrote:
bás wrote:
It really upsets me too because he had such a bright future as the greatest singer since Mike Patton.


You are taking the piss, aren't you?!?

Dick head in a shit band was my opinion before, now he's a total cunt.

I saw on fb Was commented the guy would end up in a hospital instead of a prison, but I can't see that happening; there's no indication of any mental health grounds, he's just psychopathic (I think anti-social personality disorder is the current term) and a sexual pervert, but it doesn't sound like psychotic fantasies or anything which is what people like Sutcliff have.

Of course I'm taking the piss. Come on. What he's done is beyond belief and beyond celeb cake eating behaviour. The women involved seem doubly warped. What happened to their maternal instinct. Also why can they not be named? He'll get jail but I can't imagine that he'll get his balls flushed down the toilet or anything Oz like. I'm sure celeb nonces are protected somewhat.

Author:  Solaris [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:41 pm ]
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The more that comes out (and I've got a pinch of salt handy at all times), the more incredible* it all sounds. It's straight out of A Serbian Film.



*I'm not sure if this is an accepted phrase, but 'less credible' changes the meaning slightly - you get my drift.

Author:  Myrddin [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:34 am ]
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Solaris wrote:
The more that comes out (and I've got a pinch of salt handy at all times), the more incredible* it all sounds. It's straight out of A Serbian Film.



*I'm not sure if this is an accepted phrase, but 'less credible' changes the meaning slightly - you get my drift.


It's possibly worse than has so far been revealed. For over a year before this all came out in the press and he was charged, there has been a person logging into internet forums claiming to be an ex and talking about him being into all this sort of thing and that he his HIV positive and was trying to infect as many people, including children, as possible.

She claims that she went to the police before talking about it online and they ignored her, obviously online, it just looks like someone trolling but this has vindicated it all. I dare say it was only taken seriously after Savile and Yewtree and they called her back. It does sound so OTT as to be (almost) unbelievable, it does makes you wonder as much else the police dismiss as "too outlandish".

Author:  Solaris [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 12:47 am ]
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That is fucking mental. He won't last long inside, even the other nonces will have a go at him for that. Regardless of where he's confined, someone will get to him eventually.

This site has a bit more detail. Sick, sick shit. Not just from/by him, the co-defendants are just as bad, if not worse for subjecting their children to all of this.

Author:  Myrddin [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:21 am ]
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Hedonism Bot wrote:
My brother likes to watch shows about fat people.

It reaffirms him feeling good about being in good shape.

Is this much different? "OMG this is sick shit. I feel much better knowing I'm not a rapist paedophile."

Not to individually insult anyone but it's "car-crash" news really.

At what point does something positive to help protect vulnerable people/children and allow men/women with these socially unacceptable thoughts/urges to seek help to control/curb them rather than just massively increasing the stigma and making them feel they either have to bottle it up or act them out in a clandestine fashion?


I agree and the whole "FARKIN STRING THA NONCES UP" brigade or Sun "readers" and the Daily Mail cunts don't want to face the fact that children (and adults) are most usually abused by family members -fathers/grandfathers/stepfathers/uncles/brothers not to mention to women or other people known to the family.

This is, by any standards an extreme case, but is sadly probably far less unusual than anyone wants to admit. The fact is that abuse is everywhere, I'm not saying it's in every home but it's probably in every extended family. We must all know paedophiles and victims but it is treated as some sort of "special event" that only happens occasionally and to other people, not the ones we know.

Author:  WATP [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:42 am ]
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Hedonism Bot wrote:
My brother likes to watch shows about fat people.

It reaffirms him feeling good about being in good shape.

Is this much different? "OMG this is sick shit. I feel much better knowing I'm not a rapist paedophile."

Not to individually insult anyone but it's "car-crash" news really.

At what point does something positive to help protect vulnerable people/children and allow men/women with these socially unacceptable thoughts/urges to seek help to control/curb them rather than just massively increasing the stigma and making them feel they either have to bottle it up or act them out in a clandestine fashion?


I don't know if I am reading this right, but are you suggesting we help fatties or people who rape children?

And I love watching fatties as well, it's makes me feel good about myself.

Would have to say it couldn't be any more different.

Author:  Triggmartyr [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:07 am ]
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To me, it reads that we should get paedos to confess their urges before trying to cure them or something.

Author:  Myrddin [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:14 pm ]
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WATP wrote:
Hedonism Bot wrote:
My brother likes to watch shows about fat people.

It reaffirms him feeling good about being in good shape.

Is this much different? "OMG this is sick shit. I feel much better knowing I'm not a rapist paedophile."

Not to individually insult anyone but it's "car-crash" news really.

At what point does something positive to help protect vulnerable people/children and allow men/women with these socially unacceptable thoughts/urges to seek help to control/curb them rather than just massively increasing the stigma and making them feel they either have to bottle it up or act them out in a clandestine fashion?


I don't know if I am reading this right, but are you suggesting we help fatties or people who rape children?

And I love watching fatties as well, it's makes me feel good about myself.

Would have to say it couldn't be any more different.


"X" amount of people may feel they want to "do things" to children or with adults against their will for that matter, wouldn't it be a good idea if those people could turn go somewhere for psychological support and treatment before they commit any of these crimes? So that, hopefully, they never commit them?

Author:  WATP [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:25 pm ]
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Nope.

Would you honestly want a "cured" paedo living next door to your family.

Thinking ah it's ok he went for some help once, he's fine now. No thank you.

From having many family members in the police and one working in the courts, I know that what you tend to read in the papers is never the full extent of what actually went on. So I dread to think what Lost Prophets man and his pals were up to.

But just because someone believes that all paedos, rapists, murderers etc should be put on a bonfire doesn't mean you are some reactionary Sun reader. It's just the best thing for them.

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