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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076

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Every household in the UK is to have pornography blocked by their internet provider unless they choose to receive it, David Cameron is to announce.


If I request it, does that come with small print that you can check what I'm looking at?

Mali is fucked now, as they are banning porn that 'depicts' rape.

Cameron, it's ok, I've already got a mum, I don't need you telling me what I can and can't look at on the internet.

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Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:31 am
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Given the nature of much online porn they are going to have a hell of a job defining which porn exactly "depicts" rape.


Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:42 am
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Censorship is just fucking gay in general.

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Given the nature of much online porn they are going to have a hell of a job defining which porn exactly "depicts" rape.


They'd have difficulty just defining what 'porn' is.

Green likes fat birds with their clothes on for a start, where will they begin?!?

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The horse has long since bolted on this one, a whole generation of kids have grown up with uncensored access to the net, God knows what they have seen or what effects it has had on them.


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feminists or religious cunts?

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feminists or religious cunts?


Tories.


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Mali looks well adjusted... oh good lord!!!

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"As a father"

Guess what you toffee nosed cunt, that has nothing to do with it, and nothing to do with your job. If you feel its a danger to your children, then block your own internet by all means.


Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:58 am
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I don't have kids, so this shouldn't apply to me.

Can I stop paying council tax for schools too please?

It'll only be vanilla porn they ban anyway.

Are they going to ban armpits, feet and vomiting Asian girls? No. Me, Fhil and Jess are fine then, so fuck 'em.

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They'd have difficulty just defining what 'porn' is.

And that's why this is so worrying. "We are going to ban whatever we decide is not acceptable."

It's silly to say 'censorship in general is bad', because obviously stopping access to child porn or videos of being people being murdered is not such a bad thing. But porn isn't illegal, regardless of what you think of it morally, and child filters already exist on - parents can control what their children see, and if they can't then they're stupid or irresponsible.

It's a very concerning decision. I really don't think I want to stay in this country for much longer. Privatisation of virtually everything and insane decisions like this are going to make me move.

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^ Certainly something I'm considering too Ed.

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The "the killers of Tia Sharp and April Jones started on 'normal' porn before progressing to child porn and then murdering poor innocent schoolgirls" nonsense is especially egregious. Guess what, fucking MILLIONS of people watch porn and don't 'progress' to child porn. I'm sure there are some people who watch child porn and don't 'progress' to sexual assault or murder! It's an even more insane argument than saying smoking weed will inevitably lead to hard drugs, or that video games promote violence and so lead to school shootings.

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Post Re: Nanny state Uk now to ban porn unless you request it.
Whilst the first comment might be a tad on the ott side, I still agree with the sentiment.

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It's not about porn. Never was.

What next, foreign news sites? Political forums? Social media ?

The day they start to censor the internet will be the day that the revolution starts.

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Was discussing this in the dildo thread with JCC, so cut and paste:

But back to Cameron and his campaign, I don't have a problem with opt in or opt out, as adults (and even children) it is easy enough to click a button, but it is what it represents: government enforcing a moral opinion by making it more difficult to access porn - see the part of his agenda about trying to get public wifi to block access to adult sites.

Then there are the practical issues - sites getting misidentified as adult...who defines if a google search is illegal? Plus this ban on rape porn - what is the definition of rape porn? I daresay we may all have different ideas on that, look back in this thread alone as I know we discussed this a few times. Plus it brings into the debate S&M - some may find that "rape porn" whereas others see it as consensual activity between adults.

I know what we have here is a moral panic, two cases recently where perpetrators accessed rape porn and went on to commit murders and so targeting online porn is a quick win for a politician aiming for success with middle england. But portraying the ISPs as the bad guys, the insinuation that anyone accessing porn online is "bad"...fuck's sake this is like going back to the eighties/early nineties where people got prosecuted for engaging in S&M. This is a backwood step

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The offence for possession of porn simulating rape is problematic cause like you said it's difficult to define where the line is there, and what the difference is between accessing and possessing. Other than that I think it's perfectly reasonable and even with the problems I think the rape porn ban is right-minded


The line is difficult, and what can happen is that line changes. Yes, it is a contestation to where the line is drawn, but no-one has spelt out what the definition of rape porn is. I've read somewhere that some of the evil angel output is being classed as rape porn - i think it was in relation to stuff like throat fucks - which isn't rape porn by my definition, but may well be to Mr Cameron.

Then what you have is anything being considered "violent" coming in under the rape porn banner - some of the stuff being classed as violent in that case some years back was just S&M.

As an aside, a long time ago i knew a rather strange individual, he admitted he had rape fantasies and used hollywood movies as his stimulation. he said it was better than the porn stuff. I know this is an n=1 but if someone gets off on non-consensual sex there are stimuli out there to feed their fantasies that won't be covered by this ban.


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Damn, I went to reply to Stat but he'd deleted his post.


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The "the killers of Tia Sharp and April Jones started on 'normal' porn before progressing to child porn and then murdering poor innocent schoolgirls" nonsense is especially egregious. Guess what, fucking MILLIONS of people watch porn and don't 'progress' to child porn. I'm sure there are some people who watch child porn and don't 'progress' to sexual assault or murder! It's an even more insane argument than saying smoking weed will inevitably lead to hard drugs, or that video games promote violence and so lead to school shootings.


The mirror have an article today about Ian Brady and other murderers and rapists being allowed to watch violent films.

Bit late really... it can hardly make them worse...

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Damn, I went to reply to Stat but he'd deleted his post.


well just reply to it then. you know what i said :D

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Okay - this debate is ostensibly about rape porn, not porn in general. Cameron isn't advocating a ban on porn, just restricting access for children, but also banning rape porn. So your comment about men shouldn't feel guilty about accessing porn isn't the issue here. If someone is viewing rape porn I hope they have enough control not to act out their fantasies, that porn is the release valve, not the stimulator


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If they had just limited it to cracking down on child porn it wouldn't be an issue but this is just stupid and counterproductive. Why equate films of consenting adults with kiddie flicks? It's a slap in the face to child abuse victims. Disgusting.


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