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Author:  The Golden Fang [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:25 am ]
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I have thought about doing one of these for a while, I know things have been going in that direction in the Comedians thread but I think it's worth this topic having its own, the focus of the other one is/has been stand up comedy. Maybe a Mod can link the posts from today into his one? Having a thread on a reasonably focused topic tends to encourage contribution.

Anyway, favourite sitcoms, sketch shows etc? Most hated? Do you prefer UK or US? If it is the latter you are a humourless cunt and deserve to die.

I love UK TV comedy, arguably the 90s was a golden age and undoubtedly the golden age of "alternative" comedy. Sunshine on Putty by Ben Thompson covering UK comedy from Vic Reeves Big Night Out to the end of The Office is well worth a read. I don't really remember comedy before Vic and Bob but suffice to say they we hugely responsible to charging the entertainment landscape. They are has beens now but it's easy to forget how out there and weird they were, especially on Big Night Out, by the time Shooting Stars appeared they were watered down and rapidly turning rubbish, Bang Bang Reeves and Mortimer was a nig step in the right direction but there was only one series.

There are of course absolutely terrible UK TV comedies- most things on BBC3 and The Wright Way was an unforgivable atrocity, just when you thought Ben Elton couldn't be any more of a cunt.

However UK comedy, overall pisses and shits all over US sitcoms. I'm no expert on US comedies but I have been subjected to numerous episodes and parts of episodes of many or most of the bigger ones and they all feel ike they've come off the same production line. The way they are filmed, the way the actors deliver their lines, the way the actors "act", the "jokes", the scenarios, the occasional, heavily signposted and underscored stop for some sentimental bullshit every Xth episode. There is also the lack of depth, anything resembling "edge" and the fact that these soulless, bland confectionaries are designed purely to keep as many lowest common-denominator morons distracted for 20 mins (30, with ad breaks) while they wait to do.

Some, inevitably are a bit better than others: Frasier and the Big Bang Theory are less inane than most of the others but it's different shades of shit at the end of the day. I've heard people claim Frasier is "clever" , I assume this is because he is a psychiatrist and the episodes frequently reference high culture. Yes, The Office is a filmed differently but that's a rip off of the UK version, Curb Your Enthusiasm is different too, saw an episode and it did nothing for me.

On the other hand Simpsons (when it was good), South Park and Futurama, before it was taken off air, are three of the best comedies and best programmes ever.

Not got around to discussing much UK stuff or any sketch shows at all but I'll stop now and list a tentative top 10 TV comedies:

South Park
The Thick of It
The Royle Family
Simpsons
The Smell of Reeves and Mortimer
The League of Gentlemen
Brasseye
Father Ted
Fawlty Towers
The Office

I will probably think of several other things in the next few minutes, this is more to ge the ball rolling than anything.

Author:  Painkiller [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:26 am ]
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No Jam? Cunt.

Author:  The Golden Fang [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:28 am ]
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No, it was brilliant but not top 10 or possibly even top 20 material.

Author:  bás [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:29 am ]
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The best British comedy I've seen for years is Star Stories. I wish they'd make another series.

Can I just add that I hope Dom Joly gets bummed to death by a man in a snail suit shouting loudly into a mobile.

Author:  Painkiller [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:29 am ]
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Lies.

Arrested Development is a good US show, though not as amazing as some claim. Archer (which features two of the same actors as AD in similar roles) is brilliant, though.

Author:  bás [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:31 am ]
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Who's lying?

Author:  The Golden Fang [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:32 am ]
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Painkiller wrote:
Lies.

Arrested Development is a good US show, though not as amazing as some claim. Archer (which features two of the same actors as AD in similar roles) is brilliant, though.


I think Archer is on Netflix, will give it a look, not expecting much though.

Author:  Painkiller [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:32 am ]
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Dee. You got in the way.

Author:  The Golden Fang [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:33 am ]
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There is no Dee, only Zuul.

Author:  bás [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:34 am ]
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Comment on Star Stories and Dom Joly.

Author:  Painkiller [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:34 am ]
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The Golden Fang wrote:
Painkiller wrote:
Lies.

Arrested Development is a good US show, though not as amazing as some claim. Archer (which features two of the same actors as AD in similar roles) is brilliant, though.


I think Archer is on Netflix, will give it a look, not expecting much though.


Why bother then?

Like a lot of things it takes a bit of time to warm up, don't expect to be blown away by the first episode, but it really develops into something special. Unusual for a comedy show in that characters develop quite organically, with lots of callbacks to previous episodes and real consistency in how they behave. Fantastic character interactions and dialogue, too.

Author:  The Golden Fang [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:35 am ]
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Just Mo wrote:
The Golden Fang wrote:
I have thought about doing one of these for a while, I know things have been going in that direction in the Comedians thread but I think it's worth this topic having its own, the focus of the other one is/has been stand up comedy. Maybe a Mod can link the posts from today into his one? Having a thread on a reasonably focused topic tends to encourage contribution.


Can't be arsed, sorry.

I'll add Garth Marenghi's Darkplace and Man To Man With Dean Lerner.


If you do not a sweet young man's feelings will be hurt.

Author:  Painkiller [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:35 am ]
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bás wrote:
Comment on Star Stories


Never heard of it.

Quote:
and Dom Joly.


Cunt.

Author:  The Golden Fang [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:36 am ]
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Painkiller wrote:
The Golden Fang wrote:
Painkiller wrote:
Lies.

Arrested Development is a good US show, though not as amazing as some claim. Archer (which features two of the same actors as AD in similar roles) is brilliant, though.


I think Archer is on Netflix, will give it a look, not expecting much though.


Why bother then?


Fair enough, you have saved me the effort and five wasted minutes.

Author:  bás [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:36 am ]
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Just Mo wrote:
I liked Star Stories.

I never really watched Dom Joly.

Never ever watch Dom Joly. Mrs Brown is comedy gold compared to that insufferable cunt.
Star Stories is the best comedy of the last 20 odd years.

Author:  The Golden Fang [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:37 am ]
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bás wrote:
Just Mo wrote:
I liked Star Stories.

I never really watched Dom Joly.

Never ever watch Dom Joly. Mrs Brown is comedy gold compared to that insufferable cunt.
Star Stories is the best comedy of the last 20 odd years.


I have never seen it but is is not, it is objectively not.

Author:  Painkiller [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:38 am ]
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The Golden Fang wrote:
Painkiller wrote:
The Golden Fang wrote:
I think Archer is on Netflix, will give it a look, not expecting much though.


Why bother then?


Fair enough, you have saved yourself a phone call about how it's not as good as you said it was because the phrasing is pedestrian, which you will have to escape from after an hour by claiming to need the toilet. And then I'll cry.

Author:  Solaris [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:39 am ]
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Is Star Stories the pre-Little Britain thing with Walliams and Lucas playing celebrities of the day? 'Cos that wasn't funny.

Author:  Painkiller [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:40 am ]
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It had David Walliams in it and wasn't a single episode of Spaced? It was shit, then.

Author:  Painkiller [ Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:40 am ]
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Painkiller wrote:
It had David Walliams in it and wasn't a single episode of Spaced? It was shit, then.


According to Wikipedia, it did not. It still might have been shit, though.

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