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Author:  Solaris [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:06 pm ]
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Because 'Merka wanted their own Bruce Lee to cheer for.

Author:  oneleggedpunk [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:17 pm ]
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Good point. i didn't think of that.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:28 pm ]
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No John Woo films have been mentioned yet. False thread!

The Killer and Hard Boiled are two of the best action films ever made.

Author:  oneleggedpunk [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:38 pm ]
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I'm sure i've seen Hard Boiled.

Author:  Solaris [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:47 pm ]
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I don't think I've seen any John Woo films. No 'proper' ones anyway - I've seen Hard target, Broken Arrow, Face/Off, Mission Impossible II, Windtalkers & Red Cliff - but I gather his earlier, Hong Kong based ones are the real deal.

I didn't realise there was a second Red Cliff film, I must look it up.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:00 pm ]
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^^one of the best action scenes ever!

After watching films like that I downgraded American action films big time.

HK action films were great in the 80's. Some of the action-comedies were bloody outrageous. Tiger On THe Beat is a good example of that. Great 'epic' cheesy trailer too:


Author:  oneleggedpunk [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:16 pm ]
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Good stuff with a great ending to the scene.

Author:  Solaris [ Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:20 pm ]
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Wasn't there a series of films partnering Jackie Chan and Sammo Hung too? I remember coming home drunk on '90s Friday nights, there'd always be one on Channel 4.

Author:  WATP [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:51 am ]
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The original 6 John Woo HK action films are all brilliant

Hard Boiled, A Better Tomorrow 1 & 2, The Killer, Bullet In The Head and Once A Thief.

They are a totally different type of film to the American action films though.

Author:  The Wretch [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:12 pm ]
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True, different tone to them. I've never liked his American films, aside from Hard target weirdly enough.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:54 pm ]
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Tone shmoan. They are all action films at the end of the day. The difference is that the HK films were more daring because they were not operating under the same constraints as their American counterparts. They had less invested in the star model and the studios let them get away with murder.

Hard Target was the best of Woo's Hollywood films. Face Off seemed pretty cool at the time but it's grating as hell now.


WATP: Once A Thief is just OK. It's nowhere near great. It's easily the weakest film Woo made in his prime.

Author:  WATP [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:10 pm ]
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Aye it's not as good as the other 5 but it's still a good film. Just Heroes with Danny Lee and Heroes Shed No Tears with Lam Ching Ying are two other good HK Woo films.
He did some decent martial arts ones before that as well, Hand of Death and Last Hurrah For Chivalry which is brilliant.

Hard Target is his only decent US film. Van Damme is at his best in it. The mullet and the accent at its peak.

Face Off can fuck off. Nicolas Cage and Travolta are fuckin gash in that one.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:14 pm ]
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I have fond memories of Hard Target. It was great seeing it on the big screen.

Once A Thief is the only Woo film made between 1986-1992 that I would give less than a 4. The others are 4 and above

Author:  WATP [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:27 pm ]
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Did you get Hong Kong Legends DVDs in Australia?

They are good for the HK John Woo films, all have commentary from the mighty Bey Logan.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:35 pm ]
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No we don't, but I used to buy Made In Hong Kong videos in the 90's, imported from the U.K

Author:  xBroskix [ Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:18 am ]
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I recently bought the Mad Max trilogy, I hope people on here are wrong when saying the first is the best as it's pretty shit!

The worse thing for an action film is to be boring, and for most of Mad Max that's exactly what it is.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:21 am ]
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I like the atmosphere of the first Mad Max. It doesn't really have a lot of action in it. The second one is more of a straight forward action film.

But yes, there is no doubt that the films have dated somewhat and aren't quite as effective as they once were.


I also must disagree with Wretch about 70's actions film, particularly of the American variety. It's true that they were 'gritty', but they often had serious pacing problems. When I think of a good

Author:  Solaris [ Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:29 am ]
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Mad Max 2 is definitely the best, there's no question. The third one's the worst but I don't hate it as much as others seem to. I'd probably watch it before the first one, whose main problem is (understandably) the budget.

Author:  The Wretch [ Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:24 am ]
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Solaris wrote:
Mad Max 2 is definitely the best, there's no question. The third one's the worst but I don't hate it as much as others seem to. I'd probably watch it before the first one, whose main problem is (understandably) the budget.


There is no way it is more watchable than the first! I don't see how the budget affects that at all. I don't mind Thunderdome so much, cheesy as it is, until the part with the kids, all that "tomorrow-morrow land" and Captain Walker bullshit, which is just fucking awful. Even when I was young seeing it for the first time, I remember thinking it was ridiculous. If it had just been based around Bartertown and the Thunderdome, it would have been a passable, if typically silly, 80's action film.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:44 am ]
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If it was based around Barter Town it could have been a great action film. I think that Captain Walker thing could have been decent if it was handled better. The idea of Max being confused for a mythical figure isn't that bad of an idea. It's just done in a really cheesy way.

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