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 General elections 2015 

who gets your vote?
Conservatives 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Labour 16%  16%  [ 3 ]
UKIP 26%  26%  [ 5 ]
Greens 37%  37%  [ 7 ]
Liberal Democrats 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Scottish national party 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Plaid Cymru 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Other 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Undecided 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 19

 General elections 2015 
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Hallingbollocks is obviously on a wind up, not even a fifteen-year-old Jeremy Clarkson/Ricky Gervais fan would genuinely call Murdoch a "legend".

He's clearly one of those who thinks an actual, literal free market is even possible, as well.


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Clint Ruin wrote:
Hallingbollocks is obviously on a wind up, not even a fifteen-year-old Jeremy Clarkson/Ricky Gervais fan would genuinely call Murdoch a "legend".

He's clearly one of those who thinks an actual, literal free market is even possible, as well.


There will never be a free market for as long as I live but there are better alternatives. NHS for example, could be saved if we opted for a universal healthcare system, which will eliviate pressure off the NHS and give people options too. Especially if NI was lowered for those who have their own care plans.


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Shouldn't private concerns not be subsidised when they are competing to replace wasteful public ones?

Train companies getting interventions but skimming off profits and fare increases.

How has that helped customers?

Energy companies? Water companies? Etc and so on . . .

The ones that seem to work are those working on contract to run a service with regular evaluations and the option for contracts to go to open tender again (in some cases).


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Well that went well...

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We know what cunt from this thread who voted Tory and thank fuck the cunt ain't been back.

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Haven't had the chance to view the news yet but I assume a tory majority?

Most of my fb friends lean left so my feed is going to be unreadable for the next 5 days. Time for the waterworks to start...

Still, that prick Galloway lost his seat so it's not all doom and gloom.

Edit: Nigel Farage didn't get a seat either. Good times.


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Fuck the sweaty jock cunts, fuck all the stupid cunt english and fuck this country and all that are about to drown in it. With any luck Putin will just nuke us and put us out of our misery.

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Since there'll be a referendum, UKIP surely have run their course so isn't their one Parliamentary seat kind of wasted?


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Having an election party at mine. Plan us to get paralytic and cry, who's in?

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Since there'll be a referendum, UKIP surely have run their course so isn't their one Parliamentary seat kind of wasted?


It's only through to Carswell having such a big presence in his local constituency when he defected to UKrap that they have one in the first place. As soon as he either retires or goes back crawling to the Tories, they'll be left to swirl around in the same political toilet the BNP (remember them?) currently swim in.


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What will Carswell arguing for in Parliament? Surely the Europe debate will be shut down with the referendum.


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Hengist wrote:
Since there'll be a referendum, UKIP surely have run their course so isn't their one Parliamentary seat kind of wasted?


It's only through to Carswell having such a big presence in his local constituency when he defected to UKrap that they have one in the first place. As soon as he either retires or goes back crawling to the Tories, they'll be left to swirl around in the same political toilet the BNP (remember them?) currently swim in.


hmmm not sure about that, they did garner 4 million votes which is way more than the BNP ever managed. They also appeal to far more disenchanted Labour voters. Certainly at local election time they are going to get a lot of seats around here (Essex), Kent and disadvantaged communities in the North. How much of this was due to the Farage factor we shall see, however the deputy leader was actually surprisingly lucid when he was interviewed last night. If they can root out the more obviously swivel-eyed and racist they could have a long-term future. Unfortunately.

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Not to mention their pious gay bashers.


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Damnit, my main man Ed Balls lost.


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hmmm not sure about that, they did garner 4 million votes which is way more than the BNP ever managed. They also appeal to far more disenchanted Labour voters. Certainly at local election time they are going to get a lot of seats around here (Essex), Kent and disadvantaged communities in the North. How much of this was due to the Farage factor we shall see, however the deputy leader was actually surprisingly lucid when he was interviewed last night. If they can root out the more obviously swivel-eyed and racist they could have a long-term future. Unfortunately.



Getting 4 million votes means fuck all if it's not concentrated geographically. FPTP isn't going anywhere soon. They were a convenient protest vote dustbin like the BNP were but their poll ratings were dipping for months on end before the general election and the only seat they have was on a massively reduced majority. Not a sign of progress at all.

This "UKIP Surge" myth was propagated mainly by scaremongers on both sides of the political spectrum for their own purposes.

There's no capable leadership whatsoever as Farage sacrificed that for cheap BNP populism and put quantity over quality. I halfway struggle most days to think of any UKIP figure who isn't a defector or implicated in a racist comment/EU expenses scandal.

That party was the Nigel Farage show. No Farage, no show.
Nirvana without a Cobain.

As for the swivel eyed loonies - the fact that they were even allowed to be councillors shows that UKrap haven't got the message disipline to contain them in the first place. If your party attracts swivel eyed loonies every day of the week then it's a problem too deep to be fixed.

Doomed to the same irrelevance swirling toilet as their fellow travellers the BNP. nothing more.


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I hope you're right but the 2017 Referendum gives them something to rally around, Cameron may not want to leave the EU but his party's own swivel eyed cunts do want as does portions of the right wing press.


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UKIP served their purpose well. They'll be resurrected in due time (assuming Cameron hasn't sneaked out of a referendum) as the face of Euroscepticism and the establishment rig will go ahead as planned.

As you were.


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Stuffstuff wrote:
major-general heavy wrote:
hmmm not sure about that, they did garner 4 million votes which is way more than the BNP ever managed. They also appeal to far more disenchanted Labour voters. Certainly at local election time they are going to get a lot of seats around here (Essex), Kent and disadvantaged communities in the North. How much of this was due to the Farage factor we shall see, however the deputy leader was actually surprisingly lucid when he was interviewed last night. If they can root out the more obviously swivel-eyed and racist they could have a long-term future. Unfortunately.



Getting 4 million votes means fuck all if it's not concentrated geographically. FPTP isn't going anywhere soon. They were a convenient protest vote dustbin like the BNP were but their poll ratings were dipping for months on end before the general election and the only seat they have was on a massively reduced majority. Not a sign of progress at all.

This "UKIP Surge" myth was propagated mainly by scaremongers on both sides of the political spectrum for their own purposes.

There's no capable leadership whatsoever as Farage sacrificed that for cheap BNP populism and put quantity over quality. I halfway struggle most days to think of any UKIP figure who isn't a defector or implicated in a racist comment/EU expenses scandal.

That party was the Nigel Farage show. No Farage, no show.
Nirvana without a Cobain.

As for the swivel eyed loonies - the fact that they were even allowed to be councillors shows that UKrap haven't got the message disipline to contain them in the first place. If your party attracts swivel eyed loonies every day of the week then it's a problem too deep to be fixed.

Doomed to the same irrelevance swirling toilet as their fellow travellers the BNP. nothing more.

look, i want them to be flash in the pan as much as the next man, but they came 3rd in the UK. 3rd in terms of vote share and votes cast. that is not pollsters hyperbole but an actual fact. they also have a much wider geographical spread than the BNP. they also now control a council in Kent. Unlike the BNP they appeal to 'normal' voters ie people who would have voted Labour/Conservative in the past.
I think they will remain a fringe party but they will remain unlike the BNP. their popularity will hang on the Euro referendum i'm sure.

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The BNP controlled councils too. And when people found out just how useless they were they used the ballot to throw them out. As what will happen with UKIP and their famed, drag-a-trawler-net-through-a-loony-bin style of recruitment. If Farage can't get the leadership position in September, they're screwed.

Populist, flash-in-the-pan outfits like this need a charismatic leader who can be at least memorised by the general populace. Now there's going to be a very messy catfight over the leadership position by the various non-entities and expenses fraudsters that Farage put in place, is there even going to be a UKIP left?

Besides, the BNP didn't disintegrate. It's just that without Griffin's leadership they're rudderless and irrelevant. Griffin took them to the only electoral success they've ever known. With him gone they'll just float in the wind forever. And that's where UKIP is headed.

The British political system has had these outfits spring up since forever and they always follow the same pattern: Appeal to xenophobic instincts, whip up a mob of like-minded sorts, reach peak dickhead, hit the ceiling, flounder and fall into irrelevance.

No matter. Whatever I say we'll be repeating this pattern again in twenty years.


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