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There is a tendency for horror buffs to exaggerate the merits of films that kicked off major franchises.

None of the original films for the main franchises of horror over the last few decades are classics other than Halloween, The Exorcist and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The rest are either very good but highly flawed (Nightmare on Elm Street, Child's Play, Scream etc) or just ok and ultimately not worth talking about (Amityville, Friday The 13th, Saw etc), while others are just outright shit (Paranormal Activity).

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I only vaguely remember the original, I watched it sometime in the '80s. Was there a scene where he hallucinates his face peeling off, or something along those lines?


That was Poltergeist.



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No, I'm aware of that scene in Poltergeist. I have a vague recollection of him screaming something like "it's tearing me apart!" or something like that and having his bloody face in his hands. Like I said, decades since I saw the film.

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Finally got to see Blade Runner 2049. Phenomenal. Perfect follow up to the original, best film I've seen this year, without a doubt.

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Crimson Tide: this has stood up. One of the best action thrillers of its time. A smarter film than one might expect too, and Zimmer's score is truly propulsive. Hackman and Washington are great. It's probably the best Simpson/Bruckheimer film too. Strong 3.5 or a low 4

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Cynthia Rothrock incomplete collections. Seen most of em anyway. Never tire watching her kick ass!


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Crimson Tide: this has stood up. One of the best action thrillers of its time. A smarter film than one might expect too, and Zimmer's score is truly propulsive. Hackman and Washington are great. It's probably the best Simpson/Bruckheimer film too. Strong 3.5 or a low 4

Tony Scott directed that, didn't he? It has that feel to it, at any rate. I think Tarantino did some uncredited script work, too. Good movie, though as far as submarine movies go, I prefer The Hunt For Red October. Though neither comes close to Das Boot, obviously.

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Hunt is boring imo. Crimson has more layers and it plays like a new film. Hunt now seems out of date.

Yes Scott directed, but it's quite restrained for him

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The fiance has been away all weekend, so I've caught up with a few films.

The Mutilator - Fine for what it is. 2 fists.

Deep Red - Really liked this one a lot. I liked that it was as much a murder myster/thriller as it was horror. 4 fists.

Day of the Dead - When it started I didn't think I was going to like it, but then when it became less about zombies, and more about the human side of thing - and planning for a future with zombies rather than just shoot them all - it kind of won me round. 4 fists

Inferno - Kind of like Suspiria's aesthetic except a bit more tasteful and refined. Really enjoyed it. I liked how it presented itself as an esoteric/occult themed film, but all the way through you are left wondering if it's human or the myth. 4 Fists

The Howling II: Your Sister Is A Werewolf - I ended up pausing it half way through to go do housework. Out of choice. So far the highlights have included a straight faced Christopher Lee saying "Your Sister Is A Werewolf", Jimmy Nail attempting an american accent, and a weird half human/wolf orgy complete with hairy tits... I daren't think what the second half has in store for me.

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Crimson Tide

I think Tarantino did some uncredited script work, too.


I've heard the same about 'The Rock' as well, and a lot of the dialogue in that seems more in Tarantino's style, at least from what I remember of that and Crimson Tide (which as mentioned, played rather restrained).

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There is a tendency for horror buffs to exaggerate the merits of films that kicked off major franchises.

None of the original films for the main franchises of horror over the last few decades are classics other than Halloween, The Exorcist and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The rest are either very good but highly flawed (Nightmare on Elm Street, Child's Play, Scream etc) or just ok and ultimately not worth talking about (Amityville, Friday The 13th, Saw etc), while others are just outright shit (Paranormal Activity).


The Exorcist a classic? No way. It's more like a comedy and is not scary in the slightest.

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The Howling II: Your Sister Is A Werewolf - I ended up pausing it half way through to go do housework. Out of choice. So far the highlights have included a straight faced Christopher Lee saying "Your Sister Is A Werewolf", Jimmy Nail attempting an american accent, and a weird half human/wolf orgy complete with hairy tits... I daren't think what the second half has in store for me.

The highlight of that film will only ever be Christopher Lee's sunglasses.

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The Exorcist a classic? No way. It's more like a comedy and is not scary in the slightest.


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Crimson Tide

I think Tarantino did some uncredited script work, too.


I've heard the same about 'The Rock' as well, and a lot of the dialogue in that seems more in Tarantino's style, at least from what I remember of that and Crimson Tide (which as mentioned, played rather restrained).


The older I get the more I appreciate Tony Scott's artistry. Unlike his brother Ridley, he didn't give a rat's ass about respectability and had a clearly defined style.

No he never made a film as good as Alien or Blade Runner, but if you think those films were as good as they were because of Ridley then I have a bridge to sell you.

Tony was the master of aggressive montage.

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1922
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Another made for Netflix Stephen King adapation, 1922 is the story of a farmer who, with the aid of his teenage son, plots the murder of his wife after she informs them of her plan to sell the family homestead.

I'm not going to give anything more away plot-wise, but 1922 is an extremely faithful adaptation of the short story featured in King's 'Full Dark, No Stars' four novella compendium. A little slow to begin with, things pick up the pace after the half hour mark, but even then, it's never really in a rush to get to the end.

Thomas Jane (Deep Blue Sea, The Punisher) is almost unrecognisable as the occasionally difficult to understand, drawling hick farmer with a knackered old hat, but puts in an excellent central performance, and his small supporting cast do their bit too. Even the cow. The supernatural element is handled well, and makes sense, and it's highly doubtful that this adaptation will leave people complaining about the ending like other Netflix King film, Gerald's Game, did recently.

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UNHINGED
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One of the first two titles I snagged from the bargain bin of my old local video shop when I started buying ex-rental tapes back in 1987 (the other was long since forgotten Robert Ginty insomnia cure, The Alchemist), Unhinged looked absolutely perfect for the fifteen year old horror fan. A dead girl on the cover along with possibly the worst drawing of the grim reaper ever, and, as with all low budget horror films, the promise of boobs.

I didn't realise it at the time, but Unhinged was actually one of the 72 Video Nasties banned a few years earlier. Not that I'd have believed it. Of its seventy-seven minute running time, most of the “action” involves conversations in a car, discussions around a dinner table, or muttering in a music room. With a disappointingly low body count of just four victims, large portions of the film consist of eating, looking shifty, back stories, and gratuitous shower scenes. There are some killer POV shots, and one reasonably decent death scene, but nothing that should have troubled the DPP or anyone deciding sleep was the better alternative.

What little story there is follows three girls who crash their car while driving to a music festival. Waking up in an old house, they are looked after by an old woman who may or may not have a mysterious younger brother, her disabled man-hating mother, and a kindly groundskeeper. Soon there are rumours of a killer and of disappearing girls, a tooth hidden under a bed, and the sounds of heavy wanking from a room above.

Eventually, after two of the girls are killed, the film finally moves up a gear and the last ten minutes are almost passable. Well they would be if the director hadn't chosen to film everything in the woodshed in jerky slow motion. He also foolishly tries to deliver a twist, but fails miserably, and the whole thing ends with a big knife and a gargled whimper.

There is almost absolutely nothing memorable about Uhninged. The murders are average, the acting is tiresome, and not even the tits are any good. However, the one bright spark in this otherwise painfully tedious affair is the quite brilliant, and often hilarious, music score. It's like the director gave a Casio keyboard to a first year music student, told him to do “spooky”, and left him in a dark room for 72hrs with nothing but a massive bag of cocaine. The electronic score throbs along quite moodily most of the time, but just occasionally, and at seemingly random moments, it explodes into mayhem, like the composer has suddenly been possessed by Animal from The Muppets, and goes totally bonkers for a couple of minutes. Remember the episode of Friends where Ross performs his piece of experimental keyboard? Yeah, like that. But madder.
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UNHINGED
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With such a low standard set back in 1982, you would have thought it would have been impossible to remake Unhinged and actually make it worse, but well done to everyone concerned with this utterly pointless project. You've succeeded in doing just that. Why on earth, after a thirty-five year gap, anyone would want to remake such a throwaway, forgettable piece of nonsense in the first place is a mystery to begin with. But why they would choose to film it in England, with English and Australian actresses failing majestically at playing Americans is an even bigger one. Why also, when the original felt half an hour too long at a mere seventy-seven minutes would you actually make this one longer and with even less happening? The questions are endless and I, for one, cannot even be bothered to think about the answers.

Four women on their way to a wedding are attacked by a guy with a knife and end up at a country house owned by a friendly middle aged lady with a shotgun. There's a PG certificate lesbian relationship that offers nothing to the story or the characters, an unscary evil voice that comes from the woodshed, a back story which casts little to no light on anything, and like the original, all the decent* stuff comes during the last ten-fifteen minutes.

With another depressingly low body count, Unhinged is full of lengthy conversations that mean nothing and go nowhere, some running, some walking, some digging, and a rubbish torture porn sequence. The killer's voice is stunningly stupid, the first twenty minutes don't actually need to happen, the epilogue even less so, and now my brain hates me for having watched it.
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*Ever so slightly less shit than the rest.

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Oh, and Thor Ragnarok is fucking ace.
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Oh, and Thor Ragnarok is fucking ace.
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Not sure about 4.5 fists - but I agree, it's totally balls to the wall fucking bonkers....

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Best Thor film by a mile.
Best representation of the Hulk ever.
Sexy Blanchett.
Surprise cameos.
Korg.
Doug.


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A horror film disguised as an arthouse movie or an arthouse movie disguised as a horror film, either way, Possession is off its fucking head. Sam Neill (Omen III, Hunt for the Wilderpeople) lives in Berlin and is breaking up with his wife, the lovely Isabelle Adjani (Diabolique, Ishtar) due to her infidelity. That wouldn't be so bad in itself, except, as we find out later, the man she's been having an affair with is a tentacled slime monster.

The story is quasi-abstract, the characters appear as confused as the viewer, and the acting is preposterously overwrought. The scene where Adjani miscarries in a subway tunnel is as laugh out loud funny as it is disturbing, and Sam Neill spends a lot of his time shouting, staring wildly, slapping his wife, or cutting himself with an electric knife. At one point he begins a platonic affair with his son's school teacher, but she's played by Adjani as well so we never really know if she actually exists or some kind of made up construct of the happy moments of his former married life.

Possession is full of questions, but most of them require no answers, and most of the time you'll just find yourself watching Adjani's insane performance. I don't think there's a single human emotion she doesn't experience at one point, all amplified to the maximum and sometimes when they don't even make any sense.

One of those films where even David Lynch would throw his hands up in the air air, Possession is seventy-five percent performances, twenty percent story and Wednesday percent slimy octopus demon.


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I liked that film a lot when I saw it back in the late 90s.

Quick ratings (out of 5):

Another 48 Hours - 3.5

The Golden Child - 2

Othello (1952) - 4.5

Last Man Standing - 3

Filming 'Othello' - 2.5

Going South - 2.5

The Last Boy Scout - 3.5

The Dark Knight - 3.5

Showgirls N/A (looks amazing on blu-ray. If I was forced to rate it I'd give it a 4 based on sheer entertainment value)

Chasing Amy - 2.5 (hasn't stood up)

Enemy of The State - 3.5

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