The only thing I remember about their last album was the guitarist whinging on youtube going to a shop and buying the album. Personally I'd regard bands like Dismember, Immolation, Malevolent Creation as second tier - with no negativity meant by it necessarily. Suffocation don't come near any of them which makes them third rate. Also, if a band's innovation is to be shit, I wouldn't see it as a good thing.

There's no way known that Dismember or Malevolent Creation are on the same level as Suffocation & certainly not a level up. That's absolute rubbish. Suffocation created the brutal death metal sound & their best releases are miles ahead of anything else that's ever been released in the entire subgenre. All Dismember did was create an inferior copy of their favourite band!

Why is anyone surprised? One of the most boring bands I've ever heard.

Horseshit. The first two Dismember and Malevolent Creation albums piss on anything Suffocation have ever released. Effigy... and Human Waste aside, they're generally forgettable as a band. As far as 'creating the brutal death metal sound' goes, I'm not sure that's something to be proud of TBH.

Beige, boring. No thanks.

Hmmm I feared that after hearing the tracks that have been released so far. I loved Otta, probably the stand-out album of that year for me, but I haven't been taken by any of the tracks I've heard.

I didn't even make it to the end, lost all interest about half an hour in. Just nothing there to hold me.

This. I don't actually mind their overall sound and style on Effigy so much (although its not an album I ever listen to) but those vocals...

Tedious.

Seeing Suffocation bashed like this is very triggering

Forgettable, heard-it-all-before, boring.

Can't remember the name of the band, but it was in German, had a submarine on the front cover and sounded like an Aldi-version of Rammstein.

Eisbrecher: Sturmfahrt.

Aye, that's them. Quite forgettable, but it's not the worst thing I've heard this year.

Understandable but I don't agree.

Surfin' M.O.D

Absolutely fucking shit.

Can you imagine a fat fucker like Billy Milano surfing anyway?

I'd rather not...