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Author:  Solaris [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:12 pm ]
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Dealer In Facts wrote:
I saw them with Autopsy in 1990, when they were good.

Saw them on the Gothic tour. No support, can't remember who was meant to open for them but I think they missed their ferry. Benediction, maybe?

Author:  Tragic Idol [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:38 pm ]
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Dubstepping Dr Dee wrote:
Tragic Idol wrote:
Beermoth wrote:
I think My Dying Bride do this sort of thing better.

what are you talking about?


Music.


cap :)

they are different enough(and yes, friends from a long time, too). By the way, if my memory working good, you rate Shades Of God as 3 fists album? Or how?

and what do you thinking about My Dying Bride "Evinta" album? no parralells with Paradise Lost - Host? Another experiment, hehe.

MDB more boring for me, anyway :)

Author:  hj864 [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:45 pm ]
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Evinta has the distinguishing feature of being even shitter than Host.

Author:  robitusson [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:46 pm ]
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Moth is right. From the little I've heard of PL, MDB are superior. Not that that's a slight of course.

Author:  Solaris [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:47 pm ]
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Oh they're much better. MDB's 2 or 3 dodgy albums to PL's 2 or 3 decent ones? No contest.

Author:  andrew [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:54 pm ]
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A band that when you first hear them you love them,but they grow stale very quickly in my view

Author:  Clint Ruin [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:12 pm ]
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Oh for god's sake, stick Type O's best of (aka 'October Rust') on and have done with it. PL are clodhopping pish.

Author:  Shallowthing [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:14 pm ]
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I always judged Paradise Lost to be better than both My Dying Bride and Anathema because they were never afraid to put their foot down and "rock out", for want of a better expression. Much more energy, not to mention better songs and more memorable guitar playing.

Author:  Mali [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:42 pm ]
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I think I've seen PL eleven times now:

Rock City 1993 (supporting Sepultura)
Wolverhampton 1994
Rock City 1994 (with Die Krupps)
Milton Keynes 1995 (secret gig)
Dudley 1999
Dudley 2001
Dudley 2003
Wolverhampton 2004
Hammersmith 2005 (supporting Nightwish)
Dudley 2005
Wolverhampton 2009 (with Katatonia)

The best ones were probably the Dudley ones, particularly the 1999 one.
I've often thought they weren't the best live band, visually, but great songs.
Aaron has always put 100% in every time I've seen them.
He's the only one who seems to really love being on stage.

As we already know, Host is the best album. Icon is good, Draconian is hugely overrated and tedious. Paradise Lost is very good and Symbol of Life is a cracker. Their two best songs are 'One Second' and 'Say Just Words'.

Author:  Solaris [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:49 pm ]
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Oh lord.

I also saw them when they were touring Draconian Times, they were pretty good then but, as you'd imagine, it was mainly DT, Icon & SOG songs with maybe Gothic & Eternal thrown in. Half empty venue, too.

Author:  Admiral Steev [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:59 pm ]
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Shallowthing wrote:
I always judged Paradise Lost to be better than both My Dying Bride and Anathema because they were never afraid to put their foot down and "rock out", for want to a better expression. Much more energy, not to mention better songs and more memorable guitar playing.


Anathema > Shades/Icon/Draconian era PL > Darren-era Anathema > MDB > early PL > post One Second PL

BUT Icon is a 5 fister

Author:  Triggmartyr [ Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:20 pm ]
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Never heard them after the synth-pop album. Are they playing metal again?

Author:  Shallowthing [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:36 am ]
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ULTRANumb wrote:
As we already know, Host is the best album. Icon is good, Draconian is hugely overrated and tedious. Paradise Lost is very good and Symbol of Life is a cracker. Their two best songs are 'One Second' and 'Say Just Words'.

Here Mali slips further and further into self-parody.

Author:  Triggmartyr [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:44 am ]
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Draconian is fucking class.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:51 am ]
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Clint Ruin wrote:
Oh for god's sake, stick Type O's best of (aka 'October Rust') on and have done with it. PL are clodhopping pish.


Type O Negative. a band from the 90's whose music has stood up about as well as early Paradise Lost.

No thanks.

I also prefer Paradise Lost to MDB, for some of the reasons Shallow mentioned above.

Having said that, MDB were probably more original, and they were far better at the death/doom style than P.L.

As influential as 'Gothic' was, it isn't a patch on 'Turn Loose The Swans'.

Author:  Admiral Steev [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:36 am ]
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steev wrote:

Anathema > Shades/Icon/Draconian era PL > Darren-era Anathema > MDB > early PL > post One Second PL



5 fist Anathema: Silent Enigma, Alt 4, Judgement, We're Here Because We're Here. 4 fist Anathema: Eternity, Fine Day To Exit, Natural Disaster

5 fist mid-period PL: Icon. With a different track listing, maybe Draconian would have been, but it isn't. 4 fists for Shades and DT

5 fist Darren-era Anathema: Pentecost III (which is about as damn close to 6 fists as anything). 4 fist Serenades and Crestfallen.

5 fist MDB: Turn Loose The Swans. Strong 4 fists for Angel and the Dark River and Light at the End of the World. Mix of 3 and 4 fists for the rest

EDIT: Drop in quality from this point downwards

3 fists: Gothic

EDIT: Big drop in quality lives here...

2 fists - 0 fists: One Second and beyond PL

Author:  oneleggedpunk [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:51 am ]
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Never heard any Paradise Lost, but from the tracks i've heard in this thread they're not for me.

Author:  Tragic Idol [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:59 am ]
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Trigg wrote:
Never heard them after the synth-pop album. Are they playing metal again?

yeah this is the full answer

ULTRANumb wrote:
As we already know, Host is the best album. Icon is good, Draconian is hugely overrated and tedious. Paradise Lost is very good and Symbol of Life is a cracker. Their two best songs are 'One Second' and 'Say Just Words'.


Symbol of life is cracker but One Second and SjW not their best. you just love these 2 songs more then other stuff, because they are catchy for listener.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:04 am ]
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'One Second' is a great album imo, but i don't like it nearly as much as i did back in 1997. not sure if i overplayed it, or that it just isn't as good as i once thought.

either way, it's still one of their best to me, and should have been their major label debut, rather than 'Host'.

Author:  Tragic Idol [ Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:09 am ]
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oneleggedpunk wrote:
Never heard any Paradise Lost, but from the tracks i've heard in this thread they're not for me.

what kind of tracks you listened in this thread? i am ask you coz i post too much their songs here

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