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Author:  Chinese Whispers [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:46 pm ]
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I'm usually a bit iffy with DM bands doing covers (particularly when their are doing 80s stuff and before). Between the downtuning, vocals which are completely wrong with the style, not to mention the clinical production, it tends to suck the life out of the track. Seriously don't need to hear a DM band do another Iron Maiden cover. But that Cannibal tracklist seems alright. A bit more appropriate and in line with their style.

Author:  Vim Fuego [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:16 am ]
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The Cannibal Corpse covers piss all over Six Feet Under, but that's not really saying a lot.

Author:  Cuchulainn [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:30 am ]
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Vim Fuego wrote:
The Cannibal Corpse covers piss all over Six Feet Under, but that's not really saying a lot.

That's basically saying 'My shite has more peanuts in it than yours...'

Author:  blacklorre [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:59 am ]
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You gotta admit that Zero The Hero cover was good! Probably my favourite (DM) Sabbath cover besides Master's Children Of The Grave.

Author:  Solaris [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:00 pm ]
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The Exorcist was better. As I said, the version of Endless Pain here is pretty decent.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:09 pm ]
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Cuchulainn wrote:
Vim Fuego wrote:
The Cannibal Corpse covers piss all over Six Feet Under, but that's not really saying a lot.

That's basically saying 'My shite has more peanuts in it than yours...'


:lol:

I prefer to laugh when I shit, so SFU wins!

Author:  Annihislater [ Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:48 am ]
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If anyone has any suggestions for Jazz albums I should look into, by all means send some recommendations my way. I'm still pretty new to it, but I've really caught the bug with it these last few weeks. Chinese Whispers, you obviously seem quite into it.

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for context this is the extent of my current collection

Author:  Chinese Whispers [ Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:57 pm ]
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It's a pretty nice collection you have going and is probably right in my personal sweet spot too (late-50s, early-60s hard bop, heading into post-bop, modal and free jazz). I could list stuff all day, but I'll limit myself to 5 that I think you could enjoy:

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1) Oliver Nelson - 'Blues & The Abstract Truth'
It was the first release on the Impulse! label (whom would latter sign Coltrane for his seminal later-career releases including 'A Love Supreme'). You get members of Miles' first great quintet (Paul Chambers on bass & Bill Evans on piano), plus the underrated Freddie Hubbard on trumpet, a guy who you could slot into anywhere from more traditional be-bop to free jazz explorations and not miss a beat. Then you have the wildcard of Eric Dolphy on sax and flute. Oliver Nelson leads and composes all the material. He went onto composing for film and television later on, and as you could imagine, his pieces are quite rich, detailed and varied, with lots of intersecting lines. Add the fine soloists on top and you have one hell of an album.

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2) Cannonball Adderley - 'Mercy, Mercy, Mercy - Live At The Club'
Cannonball joins up with his trumpet-wielding brother Nat and Weather Report keyboardist Joe Zawinal for a 'live in front of a studio audience' session. The vibes from this one are electric, the title track a laid back classic. Has a bit more of a Southern flavour that you'd expect from the second lines which can be a welcome change to the modal and free stuff that was happening at the time.

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3) Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - 'Moanin''
You can Google Art Blakey and soon realise that he pretty much played with anyone who was anyone. On this record he gets to unleash on 'Drum Thunder Suite', a piece specifically written to showcase his talents. Plus you get a version of pianists Bobby Timmons' definitive title track, and a young Lee Morgan on trumpet. Benny Golson's other compositions here are highly underrated too, and he receives far less credit than what some of the more celebrated 'musical directors' of the Jazz Messengers (Horace Silver, Lee Morgan, the Marsalis brothers) that came before and after him (possibly due to his short tenure in the group). It has been referred to as the archetypal hard bop album.

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4) Eric Dolphy - 'Out To Lunch'
Because you can never have too much of Dolphy's unique and completely individual take. Plus you get him mixing it up between alto sax, flute and bass clarinet. This is far more free and, as the title suggests, 'out'. Contains a stellar line-up to back Dolphy on a record featuring all his own compositions - Freddie Hubbard on trumpet, a young Tony Williams on drums, and perhaps with an almost album stealing performance by Bobby Hutcherson on vibes. Seriously, there should be more vibes in free jazz. Unfortunately Dolphy's last album as a band leader before his untimely death that same year ('64).

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5) Wayne Shorter - 'Speak No Evil'
Just a great late-night record with a stellar band in support, enlisting bassist Ron Carter and pianist Herbie Hancock from Miles' second great quintet (of which Shorter was a pivotal member of at the time), as well as Elvin Jones on drums from Coltrane's quartet, and Freddie Hubbard again making an appearance on trumpet (like I said above, one of the most versatile players of his era, equally at home on a long Coltrane jam like 'Olé' or something more restrained like here). This is more straight though focuses on the modal jazz of the time that was popularised by Miles' on 'Kind of Blue', and Shorter would go a long way to informing what became post-bop during this period. Plus, 'Infant Eyes'!!!

Hopefully that helps. I wanted to go with band leaders you didn't already have rather than listing the other great Miles, Mingus, or Coltrane records that are great as well, but shared members with the stuff you do have. Sometimes looking at the personnel of a sessions and seeing the names of players you like can be a great way of discovering other new artists, because everyone was collaborating around then quite frequently. Always happy to talk jazz too.

Author:  Annihislater [ Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:02 pm ]
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Nice one. Next time I'm on my PC I'll be giving them a go.

I was listening to Moanin on youtube in work on Thursday actually. I fully intended to download it when I got in that night and completely forgot, so cheers for reminding me.

Author:  Solaris [ Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:56 pm ]
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Author:  doomrider [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:12 am ]
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Author:  Paris Chrome [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:11 am ]
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Chinese Whispers wrote:
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4) Eric Dolphy - 'Out To Lunch'
Because you can never have too much of Dolphy's unique and completely individual take. Plus you get him mixing it up between alto sax, flute and bass clarinet. This is far more free and, as the title suggests, 'out'. Contains a stellar line-up to back Dolphy on a record featuring all his own compositions - Freddie Hubbard on trumpet, a young Tony Williams on drums, and perhaps with an almost album stealing performance by Bobby Hutcherson on vibes. Seriously, there should be more vibes in free jazz. Unfortunately Dolphy's last album as a band leader before his untimely death that same year ('64).

Always happy to talk jazz too.



Out To Lunch is more or less my favorite jazz album.

Sunday At The Village Vanguard by Bill Evans is damn fine too.

Author:  Chinese Whispers [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:19 am ]
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Paris Chrome wrote:
Sunday At The Village Vanguard by Bill Evans is damn fine too.


I just wish the mix on that album brought the Scott La Faro's bass out a touch more. He really steals the show on that LP.

Author:  ajk70 [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:20 pm ]
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Author:  Annihislater [ Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:16 pm ]
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Chinese Whispers wrote:
Paris Chrome wrote:
Sunday At The Village Vanguard by Bill Evans is damn fine too.


I just wish the mix on that album brought the Scott La Faro's bass out a touch more. He really steals the show on that LP.

I've only played it a few times, but I feel like it's the kind of record I really have to be in the mood for. Listened to in the wrong mood it almost comes across lethargic. Though I kind of felt similar about Kind of Blue last time I put it on, so perhaps it's just Bill Evans haha.

Though in all seriousness, Kind of Blue had been my token Jazz album for a good decade or so now as I studdied So What when I did an AS level in music. I used to love it, but since getting into Jazz I hadn't revisited it. I'm not going to say it's overrated - because that would be at the very least naive - but it certainly didn't hold me the way it used to. I think I gave up after Blue in Green. I just wasn't feeling it at all.

From the albums I've listened to I think I'm more likely to pick In A Silent Way, Sorcerer, Nefertiti, Bitches Brew, Jack Johsnon or Dark Magus from the stuff I've heard.

Author:  Paris Chrome [ Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:54 am ]
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Nefertiti is a good one. Sounds great on vinyl.

Author:  Solaris [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:35 pm ]
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Author:  Colin040 [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:49 pm ]
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The new Pestilence doesn't do much for me, but at least it sounds closer to their pre-break up stuff, Testimony of the Ancients to be more specific.

Author:  Solaris [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:49 pm ]
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Yeah, I listened to it on my way in and out of town earlier. It's alright but not particularly memorable. Thankfully the Spheres-esque noodling is kept to a minimum.

The Venom EP is fucking terrible, too.

Author:  Chinese Whispers [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:45 pm ]
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Is there another Pestilence 'reunion'? By gosh the last one was terrible.

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