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Author:  Cuchulainn [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:12 pm ]
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The Wretch wrote:
Cuchulainn wrote:
I'm convinced AC/DC have never released a 'best of' simply because their retard fans wouldn't realise it wasn't a new album.


And we were getting along so well...

Ahh, fuck it...I don't mean no harm. (Big Western movie kick at the moment)

Author:  Cosmic Equilibrium [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:02 pm ]
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Solaris wrote:
King Nothing is my favourite soong from the Loads, that and 2X4. But there's no way you could put together a 5/5 album from those tracks. 3/5, tops.

The s/t album's greatest crime is that is was so overplayed, and that it had Nothing Else Matters on it. It is what is it, a well produced (in the broader sense, as well as the recording one) pop/metal album from a band that owed nothing to anyone at that point in their careers. Yes, they've been mediocre to shit since but as a snapshot of where metal in particular, and popular (as opposed to pop) music was back then, it's as good an example as any.

And Lulu circles the same drain as St. Anger. Both 0/5. Fuck off.


2x4 is the worst song from either of the Loads by some distance.

Agree with you about the s/t's problem being one of oversaturation though. I prefer listening to the live versions of those songs now.

Author:  Solaris [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:03 pm ]
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2X4 is great, I love that 'stoner' riff.

Author:  Mali [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:16 pm ]
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No that's bullshit. Nobody has over-heard 'Of Wolf and Man' or 'Don't Tread on Me'. 'Enter Sandman' is probably the only song from the shitfest of an album that does stand up, albeit it's as hokey as fuck and the mid-section is utter bollocks, and that's the one we've heard far too much of. It's just a crap album, full of crap songs written by a band who decided to take their shot at the mainstream and it paid off big time.

At least it did pay off, unlike Youthanasia, which further softened and dumbed down Megadeth's sound but sold about half of what CTE did.

Actually the song that I have heard more than enough (aside from Sad But Shit) of is 'Wherever I May Roam', which is another plodding drivelfest. And another thing while I'm on the subject, fucking Lars Ulrich, just fuck off you prick. Watch any footage from this era and Lars makes it look like every beat he's playing is such a fucking effort. Contrast that with Nick Barker or Gene Hoglan who don't even break a sweat playing for Dimmu or Dark Angel.

What a joke.

And another thing, I was listening to Trapped Under Ice the other day and Kirk is just smoking on that track, what the fuck happened? How did someone who was so talented end up such a fucking joke? I don't get it.

Author:  Spiny Norman [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:19 pm ]
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Cosmic Equilibrium wrote:
2x4 is the worst song from either of the Loads by some distance.

Not. Even. Close.

Author:  RaspaWas [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:06 pm ]
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SO much wrong in this thread, right off the bat.

Author:  Chinese Whispers [ Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:40 pm ]
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I don't know about making a 5 fister out of the Loads, but I think I could definitely cobble together a play order that would approximate a Corrosion of Conformity album from that period (a comparison I make as I feel Metallica were shooting for something in a similar vein to 'Deliverance' or 'Wiseblood' - heck, even Hetfield appeared there).

Author:  The Wretch [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:48 am ]
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You might make an 'America's Volume Dealer' but you aren't going to touch Deliverance or Wiseblood.

Author:  Blain Cooper [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:13 am ]
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Vim Fuego wrote:
Inspired by the new Megadeth album thread.

There's some bands you can listen to for a bit, and that's just fine, but a whole album just seems a bit of a drag. There's a few good songs on an album, but the rest is just filler, with Megadeth being a prime example.

Some bands I just dump wholesale albums on my mp3 player, but others I've got to be more selective, just doing my own "greatest hits".

Some examples:
KISS. In 40 odd fucking years, they've only produced a couple of decent ALBUMS, but a fuckton of good SONGS.
It's always been my theory as to why Kiss' live albums have been so successful- you get "I Was Made For Loving You" but you don't get "2000 Man" or "Sure Know Something" (and please don't go and look at the live albums and find versions of those songs... I don't follow Kiss that obsessively)

Megadeth. I can listen to the first three albums in their entirety, but after that I need to pick and choose, because Mustaine never has. A lot of his songs sound like the first fucking thing that popped into his head...

Metallica. Similar to Megadeth, except it extends to four albums and Garage Days Re-Revisited.

AC/DC. Perfecting the art of the filler song since 1974.

I'm sure there's others, but I got up at 2.30 this morning and my mind has gone blank... :geek:


What in the fuck?

Author:  Chinese Whispers [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:16 am ]
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Personally I don't think there is too much difference between the best material on 'Deliverance'/'Wiseblood' and 'Load'/'ReLoad'. The problem with the Loads is far too much filler (down to that 90s phenomenon of filling up an entire 80 minute CD, quality be damned!).

Author:  Blain Cooper [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 2:17 am ]
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I don't think I've heard Load/Reload in 15 years. Doubt I'll change that.

Author:  MarmiteDanish [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:57 am ]
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MegaDave wrote:
I don't think I've heard Load/Reload in 15 years. Doubt I'll change that.


I think I've listened to both albums once all the way through and have no plans to return to them any time soon. Maybe I should, and as much as I think if you care about mainstream Metal you should still care about Metallica, I am very close to being past giving a shit at this point.

Author:  MarmiteDanish [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:00 am ]
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Faith No More

The new record grows on me with every listen, which makes me think that I ought to go back and check out albums like AOTY and Angel Dust and see if I enjoy them more all the way through now. However, in the past I've only really been able to enjoy their big hitters lie 'Midlife Crisis' and 'We Care A lot' enjoyable. Maybe because they are their most accessible and catchy songs and I haven't given their albums the time or considered listening they deserve. I think 'Sol Invictus' has taught there's a great deal more context to their records than I thought their was, so my position on this could be quite naive. That's where I stand at the moment though.

Author:  Vim Fuego [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:19 am ]
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MegaDave wrote:
Vim Fuego wrote:
Inspired by the new Megadeth album thread.

There's some bands you can listen to for a bit, and that's just fine, but a whole album just seems a bit of a drag. There's a few good songs on an album, but the rest is just filler, with Megadeth being a prime example.

Some bands I just dump wholesale albums on my mp3 player, but others I've got to be more selective, just doing my own "greatest hits".

Some examples:
KISS. In 40 odd fucking years, they've only produced a couple of decent ALBUMS, but a fuckton of good SONGS.
It's always been my theory as to why Kiss' live albums have been so successful- you get "I Was Made For Loving You" but you don't get "2000 Man" or "Sure Know Something" (and please don't go and look at the live albums and find versions of those songs... I don't follow Kiss that obsessively)

Megadeth. I can listen to the first three albums in their entirety, but after that I need to pick and choose, because Mustaine never has. A lot of his songs sound like the first fucking thing that popped into his head...

Metallica. Similar to Megadeth, except it extends to four albums and Garage Days Re-Revisited.

AC/DC. Perfecting the art of the filler song since 1974.

I'm sure there's others, but I got up at 2.30 this morning and my mind has gone blank... :geek:


What in the fuck?


It was just the next song on the tracklisting. To be honest, it doesn't come to mind, and I don't feel even the slightest motivation to listen to it to see if it rings any bells.

Another artist I'd forgotten last night in my insomniac stupor was Alice Cooper. There's Welcome To My Nightmare, Billion Dollar Babies and School's Out, but outside that he's definitely in need of a "best of".

Queen, outside of A Night At The Opera. Luckily, such greatest hits and live albums already exist.

Pennywise. A lot of their songs are just so damn forgettable. Likeable, but forgettable.

Cannibal Corpse. Listening to a whole album just gets a bit numbing after a while.

And this may be sacrilege to some, but Black Sabbath. I always skip the stupid hippy shit and go for the heavy fuckers when listening to Sabbath.

Hmm... Maybe I just have a short attention span?

Author:  Myrddin [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:51 am ]
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MarmiteDanish wrote:
MegaDave wrote:
I don't think I've heard Load/Reload in 15 years. Doubt I'll change that.


I think I've listened to both albums once all the way through and have no plans to return to them any time soon. Maybe I should, and as much as I think if you care about mainstream Metal you should still care about Metallica, I am very close to being past giving a shit at this point.


Are you saying if like mainstream Metal (an increasingly difficult term to define) that you should also like Metallica. Cos that's a whole heap o' bullshit.

Author:  Myrddin [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:54 am ]
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Chinese Whispers wrote:
Personally I don't think there is too much difference between the best material on 'Deliverance'/'Wiseblood' and 'Load'/'ReLoad'. The problem with the Loads is far too much filler (down to that 90s phenomenon of filling up an entire 80 minute CD, quality be damned!).


If that was the overriding problem with those albums then there would be several great tracks interspersed with filler, whereas there are one or two good tracks and a load of filler across 155 turgid, boring minutes.

Author:  Mali [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:06 am ]
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I don't believe there are any good tracks on Load or ReLoad. Fuel is probably the best, but put that up against anything from the first three and it looks utter shit.

Author:  Myrddin [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:14 am ]
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Mali wrote:
I don't believe there are any good tracks on Load or ReLoad. Fuel is probably the best, but put that up against anything from the first three and it looks utter shit.


I'd say Until it Sleeps is good but only good, it's not up to the standards of the best stuff on the first five. There are some other tracks that are OK but again, they are only OK.

Author:  MarmiteDanish [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:24 am ]
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Myrddin wrote:
MarmiteDanish wrote:
MegaDave wrote:
I don't think I've heard Load/Reload in 15 years. Doubt I'll change that.


I think I've listened to both albums once all the way through and have no plans to return to them any time soon. Maybe I should, and as much as I think if you care about mainstream Metal you should still care about Metallica, I am very close to being past giving a shit at this point.


Are you saying if like mainstream Metal (an increasingly difficult term to define) that you should also like Metallica. Cos that's a whole heap o' bullshit.


No, I'm saying that as they are the biggest Metal band of all time you should probably still be at least interested in them. OK, let me re-phrase; if you still care about whether Metallica do make actually make something good again then it's important not to give up on them, though that may seem like the easy option.

Author:  opaline [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:52 am ]
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There's really only one track on the "Load" albums that I consider to be a genuine 4/5 song & that's "Bleeding Me". There's about five tracks I like in total which would add up to a 3.5/5 E.P.

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