Likewise. You're talking about something different.
"white pride" is a reactionary thing and it's a relatively new post-60's development. It's a response to identity groups asserting themselves, like black power, gay pride, women's liberation, etc. It's more about dressing up racist politics in the language of the identity politics. Like Stuffstuff was saying about Nick Griffin earlier. No 18th century natural philosopher talked about "white pride". It was just a given that whites were superior.
Yes. I was referring to the idea of 'white pride' as a kind of social 'movement', not what they actually believe in. I know what they believe, and I said earlier that it seemed reactionary, but what Robitusson said made complete sense.
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Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:34 am
Myrddin
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Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)
Stuffstuff wrote:
Stat_Rad wrote:
In my more cynical moments I think the bourgeois despise them more for their social class than for their actual beliefs.
You nailed. Any excuse to kick plebs.
In more racist eras, it was the reverse. The poor were hated because they were seen to be more prone to miscegnation. Go figure.
There are historical instances of the white working class in the UK, trying to hide escaped slaves as they saw them as the fellow oppressed.
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Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:45 am
Myrddin
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Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)
Stuffstuff wrote:
Myrddin wrote:
There are historical instances of the white working class in the UK, trying to hide escaped slaves as they saw them as the fellow oppressed.
Yeah, that was quite common in those days if they were ever brought over from the Carribean. I have a book that goes into more detail about that.
What's the book? I'd be interested in reading it.
Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:06 pm
Stuffstuff
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Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)
Myrddin wrote:
Stuffstuff wrote:
Myrddin wrote:
There are historical instances of the white working class in the UK, trying to hide escaped slaves as they saw them as the fellow oppressed.
Yeah, that was quite common in those days if they were ever brought over from the Carribean. I have a book that goes into more detail about that.
What's the book? I'd be interested in reading it.
This:
All two thousand years, give or take. it was published in 1980 but it covers the twentieth century well.
^ Cheers, there's a book the British MC Akala has mentioned a few times on the same subject, it may well be that book. Onto the ever growing list it goes.
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Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:53 pm
RainbowPrince
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Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)
^ Cuchulainn already linked that two days ago.
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Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:34 pm
blacklorre
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Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)
Raism in metal.
Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:23 pm
handmadegod
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Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)
I can't stand the EDL/NF/BNP, The whole St George flag flying sub-culture. St George is a false saint. If there is a Saint it would be St Edmund but still I don't care much because organized religion is a the biggest con in the history of mankind and at least Pagans before them would honour their gods and not worship them like fools. Regarding "White Power" if you define your ethnicity by a similar color then you are a fool. Orients don't refer themselves as yellow, Hispanics don't refer to themselves as brown so why do Afro/Caribbean and Germanic/Gaelic people refer to themselves as black or white? It's bollocks and to judge another man based on the complexion of their skin again is a trait of a complete tool. Ultraconservatives and Pseudo-liberals are both as stupid as one another none of them are more or less in the right than the other as they are both tools of equal proportion.
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