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Author:  Stat_Rad [ Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

robitusson wrote:
Likewise. You're talking about something different.

"white pride" is a reactionary thing and it's a relatively new post-60's development. It's a response to identity groups asserting themselves, like black power, gay pride, women's liberation, etc. It's more about dressing up racist politics in the language of the identity politics. Like Stuffstuff was saying about Nick Griffin earlier. No 18th century natural philosopher talked about "white pride". It was just a given that whites were superior.


Yes. I was referring to the idea of 'white pride' as a kind of social 'movement', not what they actually believe in. I know what they believe, and I said earlier that it seemed reactionary, but what Robitusson said made complete sense.

Author:  Myrddin [ Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

Stuffstuff wrote:
Stat_Rad wrote:

In my more cynical moments I think the bourgeois despise them more for their social class than for their actual beliefs.


You nailed. Any excuse to kick plebs.

In more racist eras, it was the reverse. The poor were hated because they were seen to be more prone to miscegnation. Go figure.


There are historical instances of the white working class in the UK, trying to hide escaped slaves as they saw them as the fellow oppressed.

Author:  Cuchulainn [ Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:08 am ]
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Sebastian Bach adds his useless 2 cents...

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/sebast ... e-pussies/

Go fuck yourself.

Author:  CMFKAGC [ Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

Dr Yail Bloor wrote:
Mustaine is even sticking up for Phil on Twitter right now, I don't know what to think.


Ahahahahahaha! this has to be the least unexpected twattage news ever.

Author:  Stuffstuff [ Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:25 am ]
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Myrddin wrote:
There are historical instances of the white working class in the UK, trying to hide escaped slaves as they saw them as the fellow oppressed.


Yeah, that was quite common in those days if they were ever brought over from the Carribean. I have a book that goes into more detail about that.

Author:  Paris Chrome [ Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:44 am ]
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Cuchulainn wrote:
Sebastian Bach adds his useless 2 cents...

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/sebast ... e-pussies/

Go fuck yourself.




:lol:

Author:  Paris Chrome [ Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:46 am ]
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Didn't Sebastion Bach (LOL!!) wear an "AIDS Kills Fags Dead" t shirt at some point in the 80's?? Talk about "plebs"!


Aaaah those were the days. Or were they??


:?

Author:  RainbowPrince [ Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:45 am ]
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Cuchulainn wrote:
Sebastian Bach adds his useless 2 cents...

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/sebast ... e-pussies/

Oh for fuck's sake!

Author:  Myrddin [ Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

Stuffstuff wrote:
Myrddin wrote:
There are historical instances of the white working class in the UK, trying to hide escaped slaves as they saw them as the fellow oppressed.


Yeah, that was quite common in those days if they were ever brought over from the Carribean. I have a book that goes into more detail about that.


What's the book? I'd be interested in reading it.

Author:  Stuffstuff [ Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

Myrddin wrote:
Stuffstuff wrote:
Myrddin wrote:
There are historical instances of the white working class in the UK, trying to hide escaped slaves as they saw them as the fellow oppressed.


Yeah, that was quite common in those days if they were ever brought over from the Carribean. I have a book that goes into more detail about that.


What's the book? I'd be interested in reading it.


This:

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All two thousand years, give or take. it was published in 1980 but it covers the twentieth century well.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Staying-Power-H ... 074533072X

Author:  Myrddin [ Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

^ Cheers, there's a book the British MC Akala has mentioned a few times on the same subject, it may well be that book. Onto the ever growing list it goes.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

Now we have the financial consequences:

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/downs-appearance-at-fortarock-canceled-by-organizers-following-philip-anselmos-white-power-gesture/

Author:  Mali [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

Now Bach has offered his two cents, tweeting: "Rock is supposed 2B fun. Perverting music N2 hate? NOT fun. People who say White Power are PUSSIES. As r those who agree. Or remain silent"
Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/sebast ... jJZxbSJ.99


FFS...

Author:  RainbowPrince [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:34 pm ]
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^ Cuchulainn already linked that two days ago.

Author:  blacklorre [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

Raism in metal.

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Author:  handmadegod [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:20 pm ]
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I can't stand the EDL/NF/BNP, The whole St George flag flying sub-culture. St George is a false saint. If there is a Saint it would be St Edmund but still I don't care much because organized religion is a the biggest con in the history of mankind and at least Pagans before them would honour their gods and not worship them like fools. Regarding "White Power" if you define your ethnicity by a similar color then you are a fool. Orients don't refer themselves as yellow, Hispanics don't refer to themselves as brown so why do Afro/Caribbean and Germanic/Gaelic people refer to themselves as black or white? It's bollocks and to judge another man based on the complexion of their skin again is a trait of a complete tool. Ultraconservatives and Pseudo-liberals are both as stupid as one another none of them are more or less in the right than the other as they are both tools of equal proportion.

Rant over.

Author:  Moth [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

:shock: Blimey!

Author:  ChrisLiebing [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

Hispanics in NY do refer to themselves as brown; as do Indians/Pakistanis/Bangladeshis. It's just an adjective.

Author:  Solaris [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 11:19 pm ]
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Who's that little piggy in the background?

Author:  handmadegod [ Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Phil Anselmo (racism in metal)

I have just watched Rob Flynn's YouTube rant

"I said n****r myself, when I got jumped by 15 black dudes."

Probably best not to own up to passive aggressive racism when grilling somebody for being racist.

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