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Author:  RTC [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:37 am ]
Post subject:  Most redundant style of death metal

Many different styles of death metal exist today with the prime of the genre being a thing of the past. What subgenre of the music do you think is a stagnant pool of piss that just keeps churning out unmemorable/subpar releases? Is it the OSDM trend of a few years ago, tech death, Brutal death metal, or a style much less talked about?

Author:  robitusson [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:53 am ]
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Tech death. Girlfriend-less nerds driven by playing what's possible, rather than what's good,all in a bid to somehow be taken seriously. Thankfully it seems to be dying off a bit.

Author:  opaline [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:54 am ]
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It would definitely by the whole "death 'n' roll" thing for me. I don't think there has ever been a truly classic album from that particular subgenre. In fact the fact that the initial release (Entombed's "Wolverine Blues") is still the benchmark all these years later shows that it's struggled to stay relevant.

Author:  Solaris [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 2:14 pm ]
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Brutal death metal is terminally dull. Again, after Effigy Of The Forgotten, it's pointless bothering with.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 3:08 pm ]
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opaline wrote:
It would definitely by the whole "death 'n' roll" thing for me. I don't think there has ever been a truly classic album from that particular subgenre. In fact the fact that the initial release (Entombed's "Wolverine Blues") is still the benchmark all these years later shows that it's struggled to stay relevant.


It's not a particularly popular style of death metal though, so that's a plus.

I agree there are no classics, but there are some enjoyable releases.


Tech death is pretty useless for the most part, but I love the standout bands in the genre. e.g Suffocation, Cryptopsy (1995-2005), Gorguts etc.

Author:  Dr Yail Bloor [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:00 pm ]
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For me I'm pig sick of the whole cavernous DM trend, bar a couple of bands I find it incredibly dull.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Mon May 01, 2017 3:43 am ]
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Thankfully that trend appears to be winding down.

Author:  robitusson [ Mon May 01, 2017 6:46 am ]
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Dr Yail Bloor wrote:
the whole cavernous DM trend,

Examples of bands in this style?

Author:  an abstract [ Mon May 01, 2017 8:31 am ]
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robitusson wrote:
Tech death. Girlfriend-less nerds driven by playing what's possible, rather than what's good,all in a bid to somehow be taken seriously.


^ This

Author:  Capt. Howdy [ Mon May 01, 2017 7:02 pm ]
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I've never been into the tech stuff or the md either really.

Author:  markhebb [ Tue May 09, 2017 6:55 am ]
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robitusson wrote:
Dr Yail Bloor wrote:
the whole cavernous DM trend,

Examples of bands in this style?


I assume this means Teitanblood and co...

Author:  Colin040 [ Tue May 09, 2017 8:36 am ]
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markhebb wrote:
robitusson wrote:
Dr Yail Bloor wrote:
the whole cavernous DM trend,

Examples of bands in this style?


I assume this means Teitanblood and co...


Isn't Grave Upheaval another example of this style?

Author:  doomrider [ Tue May 09, 2017 1:35 pm ]
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markhebb wrote:
robitusson wrote:
Dr Yail Bloor wrote:
the whole cavernous DM trend,

Examples of bands in this style?


I assume this means Teitanblood and co...


I'd assumed Portal et al

Author:  Dr Yail Bloor [ Tue May 09, 2017 3:14 pm ]
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Portal, teitanblood and grave upheaval are the better bands of that style.

Author:  Zander [ Wed May 17, 2017 2:07 pm ]
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opaline wrote:
It would definitely by the whole "death 'n' roll" thing for me. I don't think there has ever been a truly classic album from that particular subgenre. In fact the fact that the initial release (Entombed's "Wolverine Blues") is still the benchmark all these years later shows that it's struggled to stay relevant.

Late to the party here, but I don't think death 'n' roll quite fits the bill as continually "churning out unmemorable/subpar releases". If I saw a new release labelled as death 'n' roll, I'd be rather intrigued because of how rare death 'n' roll records are these days.

I'd maybe go for the Stockholm Swedeath/Boss HM-2 style as the most redundant. Many recent releases in that style are mediocre and offer nothing new, even if they are fun listens for those who love that kind of death metal.

Author:  The One True Wretch [ Wed May 17, 2017 8:47 pm ]
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an abstract wrote:
robitusson wrote:
Tech death. Girlfriend-less nerds driven by playing what's possible, rather than what's good,all in a bid to somehow be taken seriously.


^ This


For the most part, aye.

Author:  Stuffstuff [ Tue May 23, 2017 2:44 pm ]
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Brutal DM. Far too samey.

Author:  Stat_Rad [ Fri May 26, 2017 7:59 am ]
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Brutal DM started out as a good idea, but it became too 'fetishistic', for lack of a better word. The ends eventually swallowed the means. Technicality became an end in itself.

With the exception of Gorguts, Cryptopsy (1995-2005), Ulcerate and a handful of others, no band has really done anything musically noteworthy in that sub-genre for a very long time. i.e 20 years

It's a difficult genre to excel in because it requires a delicate balance between technicality and musicality (i.e ideas) to really work, and that isn't easy to pull off by any means, hence the high failure rate.

I'm wary of dismissing the genre as a whole, but its limitations are obvious and have been for over two decades now when the scene was first flooded with Suffocation clones.

The other issue is that the emphasis on technicality has steered younger bands away from more traditional song oriented death metal, which has unfortunately become the domain of the old guard almost exclusively.

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