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Can't say I'm too impressed. Full of mistakes and cheap filler.

The interviews with Destruction and Testament are ten years old.
The interview with Anthrax is eight years old.
The interview with Slayer is not only ten years old but cut and pasted directly from Slayer's own website.

If you're going to use retro interviews, at least use ones from the '80s.

Great as that would be, I guess Terrorizer can only use articles from their own archives, and the magazine didn't start til what, the mid-nineties (?).

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Ed Blackadder wrote:
Spiny Norman wrote:
Can't say I'm too impressed. Full of mistakes and cheap filler.

The interviews with Destruction and Testament are ten years old.
The interview with Anthrax is eight years old.
The interview with Slayer is not only ten years old but cut and pasted directly from Slayer's own website.

If you're going to use retro interviews, at least use ones from the '80s.

Great as that would be, I guess Terrorizer can only use articles from their own archives, and the magazine didn't start til what, the mid-nineties (?).


See, I knew nothing about this Secret Histories stuff. I just thought it was a Thrash one-off and would include new interviews and such. If I'd known beforehand it was just regurgitated Tez articles, I really wouldn't have bothered.

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Did you like the nu-thrash parts?

Not bad. Not so interested in the Black Thrash stuff though.

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Not really, Mo...

Spiny, that Testament interview is 12 years old but it's still awesome

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What did you guys really expect?

NEWS?

NEW things that you DIDN'T know about the bands?

I mean, come on!

News was never on the agenda since everything appears on Blabbermouth first these days, but I thought I'd at least have some new interviews to look through. I honestly didn't know I was buying a Terrorizer archive magazine. I simply wouldn't have bought it if I did (regardless of the quality of that obviously quite brilliant Testament interview).

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I enjoyed the BM one, didn't bother with the rest.

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Spiny Norman wrote:
Moses The Prophet wrote:
What did you guys really expect?

NEWS?

NEW things that you DIDN'T know about the bands?

I mean, come on!

News was never on the agenda since everything appears on Blabbermouth first these days, but I thought I'd at least have some new interviews to look through. I honestly didn't know I was buying a Terrorizer archive magazine. I simply wouldn't have bought it if I did (regardless of the quality of that obviously quite brilliant Testament interview).

There is some new stuff in there, isn't there?

I thought the Death Metal special was pretty good, a good mix of old articles and good new "bet you haven't heard of this band!" writings.

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There is some new stuff in there, isn't there?

Blackened Thrash, Nu-Thrash, history (complete with incorrect Slayer info), record labels, fashion, German, Canadian, and Comedy Thrash.
So, looking at it fairly, only about two thirds of the magazine was old archive stuff.

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I paid nearly eight quid for a magazine.
I'm a fucking mug.

Yes. Yes, you are.

It would have only cost £6 if anywhere in my area would have sold it. :evil:
Although that would have still been too much.

Yes. Yes, it would.

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How much of it was worthwhile though?

Enough to say £3.99 would have been a fairer price.

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Fucking hell, I made a special journey to WHSmiths to buy this piece of crap. I didn't pay enough attention in the shop to realise that 40% of it was reprints of old interviews, which wouldn't have been so bad if Tez had been around in the 80s... instead we get Billy Milano talking about the second S.O.D. album, like anyone gave a shit about that then!
The Testament interview is okay, but of course, I read it then. Why am I paying for it again now?
It struck me that there's no Megadeth interview, but then maybe that's cos Megadeth were a steaming pile of shit post 1992, it would have been amusing if nothing else if they would have reprinted that interview with Dave from 1999, when Risk was out. Chortle.
I guess we're fortunate that Metallica were too big to talk to Tez in the 90's or we'd be reading about how Load was great....

Also, more mistakes....

Apparently with albums such as Practice What You Preach, Testament were considered an attachment to the Big 4 until Slayer recorded 'Reign in Blood'.

How many ways can one sentence be horseshit.
Testament didn't even have an album out until 1987, a year AFTER RIB.
PWYP wasn't released until 1989, three years after RIB.
Testament were never in/or even considered an attachment to the Big 4 as far as I recall.

Also, apparently Winger were created by the majors to cash in on the Thrash trend.
Yep Kip Winger, that vicious mutherfucker, with his lyrics about Suicide, War and Thrashing in Hell.
Bad ass.

If Tez couldn't actuallybe arsed to write any articles, how much would it have cost to licence interviews off Bernard Doe? I have the first 20-odd Metal Forces and I'm sure plenty of people would like to have read interviews with Tom Warrior when TMT was being released, or Slayer talking about Hell Awaits.



Winger were not created

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Oh yeah, and I don't recall yet seeing anything about Razor (though I haven't got all the way through yet) which is a massive fail.

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I remember circa 1989 there was a journalistic fancy that Exodus and Testament were threatening to turn the Big 4 into the Big 6, but even at 13 I thought that was being a bit over-generous to both bands. And yeah there is a fair degree of irony in calling it a 'secret' history when many of the articles were printed years ago.

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I remember a similar thing being said about Nuclear Assault around that time and, even though they released my (joint) favourite thrash album in Game Over, I've never seen them in that light.

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There's no pleasing you people. It was decent hangover reading material and that's it.


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Yep Kip Winger, that vicious mutherfucker, with his lyrics about Suicide, War and Thrashing in Hell.
Bad ass.



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Oh, I found the Razor bit.

In the top 50 Thrash albums (where to begin with the heinous wrongity of it all), with Shotgun Justice....

FFS.

1) Evil Invaders
2) Executioner's Song
3) Violent Restitution
4) Malicious Intent

All better than Shotgun Justice.

It's not even the right singer!

Might as well say 'God Hates Us All' is the best Slayer album.

This magazine is shit. The interviews they have bothered to do are so short and superficial, and all through the magazine there's little spittles of Thrash legend that everyone knows anyway...

Jeff Waters was asked to join Megadeth...

Dave Mustaine's dog...

Sigh.

You know what, I'd have been happier if they'd not bothered to reprint the interviews talking to Overkill about 'Killbox 13', Anthrax and 'We've Come for You All' (hardly thrash), and Billy M talking about 'Bigger Than the Devil' and instead made the artwork article ten pages long, that would have been great. There's so many cool Thrash album covers to choose from...

I see that this magazine is really aimed at the teenage Nu-Thrash market (Gama Bomb top 50 thrash albums, really?) but the thing that annoys most is the amount of straight up errors. Surely someone with a passing knowledge of thrash should have proof read the thing?

But actually all this pales into insignificance against the top 50 thrash albums, it's like they've started off thinking, right we'll just have one album from each band, but then they thought, oh fuck, we can't leave out Hell Awaits.... or Kill em All, and Megadeth have two classics as well... Hmm...

If you are going to do a top 50 thrash albums it should be the top 50 thrash albums, if that means there's three Metallica albums and 5 Slayer albums then so be it. Don't fucking arse it around and start dropping in Evile for the sake of it. Nothing against Evile, but is 'Into the Grave' one of the top 50 thrash albums of all time? No.
According to this list it's better than Seasons in the Abyss, So Far So Good So What, Eternal Devastation, Leave Scars, Welcome to Hell, Coma of Souls, Extreme Aggression,
Evil Invaders, South of Heaven, Killing is My Business, Fabulous Disaster, Violence and Force, Persecution Mania, Taking Over, The New Order.... need I go on?

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Survivor threads, Malibuman complaining about Terrorizer... the good old days are back!

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C'on, Ed, ditch the fence sitting and admit that this mag was a bit of an ill-researched rip-off.

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:evil: :evil: :evil:

Great idea, shit product.

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